So if we could get a motion to close the meeting, it's for real estate acquisition, development agreement reasons. So moved. And potentially litigation. So moved. So moved by Marcia. Is there a second? Second. Second? I think Tasha got it. Tasha? All right. Marcia, how do you vote? Yes. Tasha? Yes. Brynn? Yes. Brett? Is Mike on the line? No. We'll be at seven. Business. All right. That's seven. So if we could close it. Dobbins is going to start with a presentation. Well, no, I mean just in our conversations, I, you know. I can't present now. And I have tried to call you a few times. Oh, gosh. The problem is I'm moving. Like I was with Dewey Reagan this morning. Oh, Dewey. No, I was with Cameron. There we go. Billboards? Isn't doing great in billboards? They have a bill. Well, I think for the other thing, because you're wearing the leaf hat this year. That's a whole different animal. Because you're not just raining. You're every day in the whole state. So if you blow it up, it's blowing up that way too. Well, and there's going to be a few more. Yes, we are recording right now. And there should be. And we should have been doing it. All right, who's next? John, go ahead. I got next. So when I first started with the city, I talked with David about doing a three-year budget and a 10-year outlook. So we're going to talk a little bit about that, what's the purpose behind it. Really, it's just so that we can have some sort of an idea of where we're going and what does that look like. I know that as I talked to other department directors, they were like, yeah, that's something that we really would like to have and we need. We started that process. Then David left and we got no leadership. So it kind of all just kind of held for a little bit. But as I talked to Mike just recently, I asked him if we could bring that out and bring that to you and at least present something. And so here we are to do that. One of the scary things about talking about budgets is it always means that you've got to talk about how are you going to fund it. But I just want to make sure that everyone knows there are lots of different options on how to fund things. And so we can look at what those options are and how we can do that. There's different things that can help us as we move forward, whether that's sales tax, increasing sales tax. How do we do that? What's the means and the mechanisms to be able to bring in more sales tax? one of the things that we have right now is we have a general obligation bond that is expiring at the end of this term and what are we going to do with that so what does that mean well it means that at the end of this term our property tax rate which includes a portion for general obligation we need to decide whether we maintain the same rate or whether we do something else so There's lots of different mechanisms. How do we do it? Some of them require truth in taxation. Some of them don't. But we can talk through those. I'm happy to talk through whatever options you are interested in and how we go about those moving forward. So lots of different ways to look at a budget. Lots of different textbook ways to do it. Zero base, line item. You've probably heard some of these. Performance based program. There's lots of different ways we can talk about those. As we went to the department directors, I came from Salt Lake. We had just begun a program-based budget, performance-based budget, really. And so that was one of the things that I asked the department directors is, don't just tell me you need somebody, tell me why you need somebody. What's the measurement that you're using that's telling you that we need another person? Whether that's officers per thousand, which the police department looks at, right? Or is that lane miles per person, right? Or park acreage per person? There's lots of different measurements and standards that are out there. So wanted to know what those were as we asked for things, not just a great big wish list. This is just a quick look at what one of those measurements might be. So I just did a quick one and said what's Draper staffing been versus Draper population. Now, you'll notice the gray line is the population line. It drops down. I'm using the Census Bureau numbers, which is where we get our sales tax numbers from. I know the mayor presented a 55,400 number. in the state of the city, which would put the grade dot above the rest of those lines. So it just depends which statistic you're looking at in a lot of these and most of these. But you can see where are we at in terms of population continues to grow, staffing continues to grow. I did a little bit of looking. We're kind of right in the middle as far as cities in the state. I think Sandy was the lowest at one per four. We're at one employee per 156. I think they were one per 143. And Riverton was one per 250 in those images. So we're kind of sitting right in the middle. And that's, again, with the lower population number that we're getting from the Census Bureau. So that's just a quick look at what one of those measurements might look like as we're going There's some key elements that come in the plan. Some of the big dollar item things, right? Last year when we increased taxes, we talked a lot about fleet. So I wanted to just put it, we, under Mike's direction, we've put together a committee and we're really looking at trying to establish a replacement model. And what does that look like? We're looking at three key areas, vehicle age, maintenance costs, and mileage. and establishing a point system for vehicles. And then the ones with the highest points, lowest points, I don't remember which way we're going, would be the vehicles that would be replaced first. But we have 234 frontline vehicles from police cars to fire trucks to snow plows that get driven on an almost daily basis. There's 234 vehicles. The cost of those, replacement cost of those would be Close to $30 million. Quick math, it's about $3 million a year for fleet replacement, which is close to what we were pledging. So not a number that we're far off of. On top of that, we have 63 reserve vehicles and 147 pieces of equipment, which are trailers and sands and lawn mowers and different bigger pieces of equipment that looked at fleet and whether we were right, we need to make sure we right size that fleet. It also looked at the buildings that we own. I talk to Gary all the time and he says when he started there were like five buildings, I can't even remember, and now we're at 22 buildings. So replacement of, you know, just major repairs that we all have to do with our homes, right? Roof replacement, HVAC, windows, carpet, paint, all of those types of things are things that were put into the plan to make sure that we're looking at those things and considering those. We also looked at whether there were other needs that were going to be in the plan. So you're going to see, I can send the plan to you, but you'll see some large building improvements, some large landscape improvements or new landscapes. And then there's even a few buildings that were And last, the biggest piece of our budget is the people. And so we ask, the plan really does look at the future needs of personnel and what does that look like. And the departments were asked to do that based on departmental needs and then projected outcomes. So that's kind of where the plan is at. We have some initial numbers. that we're happy to share with you. But the real question is, what is it that you need from us as department leaders to help you put together a plan and where we want to be? And I think some of this will be talked about in the retreat that's being planned. But I'm happy to have conversations individually with any of you or share whatever I can. questions or anything else for me or the rest of the people in the room? I don't know. For me, I almost need to know what is it the departments each say they need. And that's what we ask them to provide, so I can get you the list of what the departments have requested and send that. Can anyone come to the second table and come to the card numbers in March? This gets you thinking a bit. Knowing, number one, that staff were working on this and trying to gather data that we could present to you, you had more time to sit down and go through it and talk about it. Anything else? Good to hear. Anyway, we really want to help and kind of provide that direction. But we're looking for you for the leadership. You go to your first slide. It was the general obligation bond. Yeah. What was that originally? So we went out for a general obligation bond to purchase the land. I thought it was you, Marsha. But then didn't we go? We flipped it to buy the land here, right? So the bond itself, so what it was used for necessarily, I can't answer. But I do know that the payments on the bond, we have our last payment this fiscal year. Wow. It has to be that. So is that an area? It was out in, we put that bond out in 2005, so it was a 20-year bond. I thought we extended the bond. I thought we used something to buy that bond. That was a self-tax bond, I thought. So as you look at bonding, We can do a sales tax bond, which means we're saying we have enough sales tax to do this. We'll put that up as our collateral for it. A general obligation bond is where we go to the voters. We go to the voters and say, are you willing to have your taxes raised for whatever purpose? So we did that in 2005. It was voted yes. I believe it was. for that land purchase. But I think it was a sales tax bond we used to purchase the ivory home. We do have a sales tax bond that is not expiring. And the property that we bought from the school district, I thought we pulled that from a general fund or something because we knew that we were going to flip it in a certain amount of time. Yes. Or our intent. Corner Canyon bond. I think we've done that a couple of times. We did that with the RDA bonds. So when we're working on these stationary plans and we talk about this land that we've acquired in future plans as a community center, that would seem to me to be the sort of project we might finance with general obligation bonds. Would that be correct? You can use general obligation bonds for what you feel like the voters would support. You don't even necessarily have to think they're going to. You can do it for anything. But obviously you don't want to spend your goodwill and your advertising and everything else for something. The one we have right now is expiring. Is there a mechanism to extend it to service another project or do you create a different obligation? So there's different methodologies that we can use. We could... Just maintain our tax rate at the same rate that would require truth in taxation, but it would be no impact to a resident. And then can we start putting that money in a potential fund to eventually build a community? That's what I'm wondering. Is that a problem? So if you raise the taxes, if you did that, right? if you said we're going to maintain your tax rate at what you are, then you, as policy makers, would have the ability to use that funding for whatever was needed. But I mean, we could save it until we accrue it. We could put it in the CFP or something. We could put it in the CFP. That would be a wise thing to pursue because then we're not raising taxes. We're not raising taxes, but we're making it possible to eventually make communities. Because it would prevent, it would... prevent us from having to raise taxes when we want to do it. Right. It would start that nest egg. But you still have to do a truth in taxation. I'd like to know what amount it would be and stuff to the bond amount. Well, I mean, for the loan. I mean, how much of the, like how much was, that general obligation bond. I don't know what the original value was, but our payment is about $500,000. I'm thinking the loan amount that we would be able to bond to build the community center. Because once those plans go out, there's going to be a lot of interest around expectations. And expectations. And people are going to want to know when is it going to come to fruition. And if we can explain how we're going to fund it. And we can say we're saving money over time so we don't have to raise your taxes. That's maybe a better methodology. Although I've heard it's $60 million and it's half a million a year. But at least it's something. Because otherwise there's nothing. Like right now there's no means to pay for any of that. Except my new book. That's a very small museum. Would we need a very large auditorium? OK, so you're saying that bonding would be $500,000 a year, we would say. If we adjusted the rate and maintained the property tax rate, it would be about a half a million dollars. That would take a while. But at least it would start. It would start. It would be a start. I mean, better than just letting it go. I totally agree. Once you let it go, it's gone. And then to get anything back, you have to raise rates. I agree. I agree. And that could increase, too, if we get a renegotiated property tax . Phase two. I mean, we're going to need lots of things, right? We need a new fire station. We need a new soccer field. We need a new public works building. The need for funding is endless. Can we do it where it's just that whole area? If you make the adjustment, you have the ability to use the funds for whatever you would like to use. It would be X dollars that would go into the general fund General Fund does have, we can only carry 34% fund balance, but if we want to save it for a specific project, we can move it to a CIP. There's a lot of different mechanisms. What do you guys think? I agree. I totally agree. What would it actually take? So if we present the budget, we can present that as an option. It would then... it would then go to a Truth in Taxation again this year. And it's not an increase, it's just a... But as long as it's in the general application, then it can be for any... Altering the tax rate is the answer to the same amount of... So the tax... Correct. I mean, what Mike said is correct. We are altering the tax rate, collecting the same amount of revenue. But for the tax commission, they look at it as two separate tax rates. So when we... And the one is... contingent upon having the loan. So when that loan goes away, they no longer will put that on the tax records. So in order to maintain that rate, we are then required to go through truth and taxation to get that addition. It would be interesting to see how the public perceives that. Well, I mean, the beauty of it, though, is that their rate, their bills are going up. It's revenue neutral. for them, right? It's allowing us to plan for the future. And do they vote or they would not vote on this? It's a public hearing. It's a public hearing. And then we go through a truth and taxation process just like we did this past year. We would have to hold a truth and taxation hearing in August and then adopt it. If you don't do a general obligation bond, where are you pulling the money to ever to build this project. Sorry, ask the question again. Well, what's the other funding mechanism to build a community center? Self-tax increases, obviously. Property tax increases. There are impact fees. Or a bond. A bond that they would vote on. Yeah. The general obligation is certainly one that I think is good for those types of community centers. public perceives as needed and providing a service or something for them, you're typically going to have more success with going to a general obligation bond than a streets building. Sorry. I mean, I don't think that people are going to say the public works building isn't necessary, but I don't know that they're going to vote to say, hey, yeah, let's build it. I think there's a lot of interest and support for something like it because it hits a lot of different points of the population. It's the parents who want a facility for basketball. And it hits the arts people who want a place where you can have plays. And it hits the arts council meeting last night. They were all talking about emailing everyone. Right. So I think you kind of touch most of the Draper population with a really well thought out community center. But do people want to wait 10, 15 years? If you do a GL bond. We can do a geo bond at any point in time. Obviously, you want to plan ahead and give yourself time to market it and everything else. And then you would need plans and things. But there is a timeline that you have to meet in expending the funds. So we bring in some bond counsel to help us make sure that we were doing it at the right time. But you don't have to wait till you get the money up front. So you could do it and then pay it back over time. Hopefully that answered your question. You're talking about a geo bond, John? Yes. Yes. Because we'll never be able to keep up with rising costs of construction. Those bonds are tough to get past. Setting aside this $500,000 sends an excellent message. But there are some difficult decisions down the road because we have no idea at what rate construction costs, material costs that are going to... Right now we have nothing. Correct. So at least if we start accruing a little bit... That's what I'm saying. It's an excellent way to start. Absolutely. Then at least the public can see we're trying. Like our intentions are to eventually build it. I mean, maybe it's not for 20 years, but at some point there's going to be enough in the bucket to build something without a massive tax increase. But do you think people, if we said, hey, we could build it in five years if we did this, and we raised it this much, would be on board with that. Could we look at different scenarios? And I think that's really the reason for this discussion is to get you thinking about what does the future of Draco look like? I mean, I'll go back to one more slide, right? Maybe I will. Yeah. There you go. What does the future look like? Where do we want to be? And the discussion really is just to get you thinking about that. We'll have further discussions in a retreat. And like I said, welcome to talk to any of you and let you know what we've come up with. Red, you've got something still, right? Quickly. Thanks, John. All right. This can be very quick. It's just FYI more than anything. There's no decision, unless you don't want it. But I talked to somebody about this. But if you don't know, Salt Lake, Visit Salt Lake and Sport Salt Lake put in a big, aggressive bid to attract the Professional Disc Golf Association to have their national championship, which is the mothership, the big granddaddy of them all, of disc golf in Salt Lake. Found out recently that Salt Lake won that bid. They've been awarded it for next year. So when they came out, they toured all the courses around. They came to ours in Draper, and they liked the second best of every course around. So they would like to use it next year as part of the PDGA championship for the women, not the men, the women's championship. So this is just kind of part of what they're, they go through a whole bunch of, So in a nutshell, to be fast, the main course that would be used is up at Brighton. That's where the big top dog professional players would be. The next tier would be what Draper would host, the one to get to the next level, more of the amateurs. So what does that mean? Well, we would close down our public course for a couple of days while we have the championship. But it brings a lot of notoriety to Draper. I asked them to give me some statistics on what it means financially. Now, this is countywide, and I had a meeting with them. I tried to say, can you tell me what specifically for Draper means? They said, we can't really break it out by municipality. But countywide, they expect this two-day tournament to bring in $2.5 million to the county. And part of that is like the expecting a lot of hotels, 3,600 hotel rooms. And what they did say is, you know, we can't guarantee you, but we would aggressively get with the hotels in Draper, since Draper would be a host with one of the courses, and especially those that are playing, or family of those that are playing at the course in Draper, they're more likely to book there than downtown. So, next year, unless you're opposed to it, we would be host to an actually exciting event, being part of the National Disc Golf Championship. Do they pay you a rental fee? They haven't got into all those logistics. I asked that, and they said they typically don't. But the benefit is that it's a competition. It seems like they should. They've been knocking it down for two days. But what they're going to say is, well, you're not charging admission for a round for golf anyway. You're not losing it. We have to maintain that. I know. It's the wear and tear. There's some discussion of that to be had. So I think that's something we really want to pursue. I think there would be opportunity for that. I think we could ask for some fee. All of the staffing, all of the support. I asked about parking. We don't want to have a parking problem. He said, well, if we need to, we'll look at the logistics of having shuttle buses or whatever to the course. Well, I think they need to pay a fee, because in effect, they're privatizing the public resource. They are. So I think there has to be some mechanism there to recoup. And also the wear and tear. If they break stuff, then we need to be able to, yeah. It probably, there'd be a contract. But even just, you know. The rentals would probably be less than what we're getting right now with our public building. It would probably take several days for the course to be covered. Right. What did you just say, Rhett? I said, in reality, the rounds of the two days that we have to shut down will be less than just the rounds that we're having right now. Right, I know, but it does block out. But it makes it so publicly easy to use. So they should pay for that. They should pay usage fee. Also. Because I'm sure the contestants are paying. Right. For these, especially the second tier, yeah, they'll have to. We'll have an entry fee. Visit Salt Lake's pitch is, yes, we'll come and use your course. But all your hotels in Baker City are going to be happy. They're going to be happy to visit Salt Lake's, doing all they're supposed to do. They're bringing in room nights to your community. Well, we talked about this when we approved the hotel tax. And we said, if you're going to lock down the canyon for a bike race or you're going to use up all the baseball fields, then we need to be comfortable. That was very clear. They would rent all those facilities as well. Exactly. So they need to be renting this facility. What about an opportunity for an audience? Where do people want to go? Can we push this out to residents as spectators? Well, here's the kicker that I learned yesterday. When this was submitted, it was for end of August, September. That was how I was going for it. They were awarded it, but now they're saying the only date is Draper Day. Hold on, that was the punchline? No. Yes, I did hear that. Why would they want to come in the middle of July? That would be so hot. There was a conflict between the PDGA and the coming back from Europe. Do they realize how hot that's going to be? That's what you call burying the weed. That was the only time they could do it. Now, our option is we say, well, we just don't want our course to be part of it, and they'll find it somewhere else. It's a horrible time to come. Shouldn't interfere with any of our Draper days. As long as it doesn't take away for staffing. Our staff is busy enough. All of our staff is Draper days. This would be relying on them staffing their own with the trash collection and stuff like that. Someone needs to monitor it now. How do you send your contract to Tracy? There's still a lot of negotiations to be happening. That's what I told them. I want to make sure you guys are good with the before. And this was before they said yesterday that it's over for today's weekend. I don't actually care that it's. I do think that they should pay for the meeting. I'll take that beat back. That's what we're going to say. It'll actually be fun for the contestants to come see Drake. And maybe we can work it into the great debate schedule if there's an opportunity for an audience. We have three minutes until the meeting. guys hear me yes Mike we can hear you okay all right look ladies and gentlemen welcome to our City Council meeting this evening we'd like to get it started mr. green can you hear us sir Mr. Mayor, I'm here. Excellent. Thank you. We've got our counseling panel. Mr. Green's with us online. We're going to start off our meeting with the Pledge of Allegiance. Our Lieutenant Pat Evans from our police department is going to lead us in the pledge. Go ahead, sir. Thank you, Lieutenant Evans. The next item on our agenda is a proclamation. I'd like to read if I could for the record. It's a proclamation on the Random Acts of Kindness Week. Whereas the City of Draper recognizes the value of acts of kindness that are performed without prompting or reason and how those acts can positively impact the person offering kindness, the person receiving the act of kindness, and those witnessing. And whereas acts of kindness can be performed by any person in the City of Draper regardless of age, origin, education, gender, religious beliefs, lifestyle, or abilities for the good around them. And whereas kind individuals can create more caring community and help perpetuate genuine acts of kindness within their city, state, and even throughout the world. And whereas we seek to cultivate thoughtful and compassionate residents by teaching our youth to make a difference through random acts of kindness. And whereas Random Acts of Kindness Week is recognized as an international celebration to encourage us to... practice acts of kindness in our homes, schools, businesses, and communities. Now, therefore, I, Troy Walker, Mayor of the City of Draper, Utah, do hereby proclaim February 9th through 15th, 2025 as Random Acts of Kindness Week to encourage the people of Draper to practice random acts of kindness in the spirit of compassion, kindness, and goodwill to all persons. Our city committee is behind this. Brandon, you serve on that? committee, and do you want to say just something about it? So the members of the community engagement committee are going to be passing out some little encouraging flyers on Saturday, February 15th, as part of this initiative, and we reached out to a couple of grocery stores. Smith and Macy said that was okay for us to stand there and pass them out there. So if anybody, you know, wants to join us, that we're meeting at 3 o'clock on Saturday, the 15th. All right, thank you. All right, the next item is an opportunity for general public comment. This is an opportunity for members of the public that are here that would like to make comments to the council on items that are not specifically on our agenda for a public hearing. I see a few public hearing items. So if you came for a public hearing on item 6A, 6B, or 6C, we ask that you wait to make public comment on those particular items to keep our record clear. But if you have a general item, WE'RE OPENING IT UP FOR PEOPLE. IS THERE ANYONE THAT WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENT? ALL RIGHT. I'LL DISPENSE WITH THE RULES, AND WE'LL MOVE ON FROM THAT THEN. ALL RIGHT. ITEM 5 IS NEXT. IT'S OUR CONSENT ITEMS. AND ITEM 5A IS APPROVAL OF THE JANUARY 21, 2025 CITY COUNCIL MEETING MINUTES. IS THERE A MOTION? NO, THERE'S ONE MORE. OH, I'M SORRY. OH, YOU'RE RIGHT. I DO HAVE THE 18 FONT, BUT IT OVERWHELMED ME THERE. 5B is approval of Resolution 2506 of Resolution Draper City Council adopting policies section 10400, vehicle usage and incident reporting of personnel policies and procedures manual. And that is it. Mr. Mayor? Yes. I move we approve consent items 5A and 5B. Motion by Ms. Vaudrey to approve 5A and 5B. Is there a second? I'll second. All right, second by Ms. Lowry. Any further discussion? Father, how do you vote? Yes. Mr. Lowry? Yes. Mr. Green? Yes. Mr. Lowry? Yes. Mr. Johnson? Yes. All right. Items approved unanimously 5-0. It takes us to item number 6. This is a public hearing. It's ordinance number 1632. It's an ordinance approving a development agreement and amending the official zoning map of Draper City for approximately 4.44 acres of property from A5 Agricultural, A5... five-acre lot minimum to RA2 residential agriculture, 20,000 square foot lot minimum for the property located at 12741 South, 12751 South Costanza Way, otherwise known as the Warehouse Ranch Development Agreement Zoning Map Amendment. We'll have Mr. Todd Taylor. Go ahead, sir. Thank you. As indicated, this is the War Horse Ranch Development Agreement and Zoning Map Amendment. This is the subject properties located at the southern end of Relation Street and east of Porter-Rockwell Trail. This is an aerial of the subject properties. The properties have the residential low-medium density designation and they are currently zoned A5. Again, the applicant is requesting a zoning map amendment from A5 to RA2. And then the development agreement is really meant to allow a reduced right-of-way width for the portion of Costanza Way that is north of the subject properties. It would allow the removal of the sidewalk from the cross-section of Costanza Way north immediately west of the subject properties, and then it would restrict the development of the two parcels to a total of four lots. So this is a conceptual master plan that was provided in the development agreement. So again, it would allow this portion of Costanza Way north of the subject properties to remain as is, which is smaller than our current standards allow. It would remove the sidewalk requirement from this portion of Costanza Way. And then conceptually here is shown the four total lots. The Planning Commission heard this on October 10th and forwarded a positive recommendation to the City Council. That concludes my presentation and I'm available if you have any questions. Questions for Mr. Taylor? may come back, is the applicant here. All right, sir, if you want, you could certainly address the council now, or you could wait to see if there's public comment, however you want to do it. Come on up, give us your name and address, and tell us your story. Chad Evans, 12751 South Cassandra Way. I'm in the purple area. I represent the Richens, which is the green area, my wife's property, which she lets me live with her on. is the purple area. We're doing this for basically two reasons. State family planning is number one. It's time that both families do this, and we've lived here and become almost close families, so we said let's do something special together. We never dreamed how important this trail would be. Because of that trail, my wife and I know hundreds of people that come by and say hi and so forth. It's wonderful. So we want to preserve that feeling of friend and family and so forth, so that's only four lots. We could have done many more, but we want to preserve that. You may wonder about the war horse name. We raise war horses that we import here from the top breeder in the world from the Netherlands. And yes, our horses can speak Dutch and English and can understand both. In fact, when they come, they're very mixed up. We just keep two at a time. And then my wife keeps four rabbits. Do you know how rabbits attract kids and teenagers? One neighbor wanted one, so we gave them one. They went and bought another one, thought they had two males. And about within six weeks, they had 21 rabbits. So this is a great place to live. We want to preserve those feelings that are here for a long time. And so that's why there will only be four lots here. Our daughter and son-in-law will build on the new lot on the green portion. The one east of our home will sit there, and someday we'll probably build a small 1,000-square-foot house log home there that we'll sit on and watch the sun sets, just like we do on the porches we have now. So that's everything there is to know about War Horse Ranch. It's just a private little place to enjoy. Any questions for me? Maybe I shouldn't have asked that. All right. Well, thank you. We may have you back. This is a public hearing. It's Item 6A, Ordinance 1632. Is there anyone from the public that would like to address a council on this item? Seeing no public comment, we'll close the public hearing and bring it back to the council. Mr. Mayor? Go ahead. I'd like to move to approve Ordinance 1632. Motion by Ms. Lowry to approve. Is there a second? I'll second it. Second by Mr. Lowry. Any further discussion? I think this fits with the area. I love it. I think this is great. I appreciate them planning it. All right. Ms. Lowry, how do you vote? Yes. Mr. Lowry? Yes. Ms. Faudrey? Yes. Ms. Johnson? Yes. Mr. Green? Yes. Items approved unanimously, 5-0. Next item is 6B. It's also a public hearing ordinance, Ordinance 1633. It's an ordinance amending the fish zoning map of Draper City for approximately 2.465 acres of property from RA residential agriculture, RA1 at residential agriculture, 40,000 square foot lot minimum, to RA2 residential agricultural, 20,000 square foot lot minimum. for the property located at 1516 East, 13800 South, otherwise known as the South Willow Zoning Map Amendment. We'll have Nick Whitaker. Go ahead, sir. Thank you. Yes, this is the South Willow Zoning Map Amendment. Here's the vicinity map. The property is off of 138 South, almost exactly where Pioneer Street intersects with it. Here's an aerial map. Um, the proposed, um, properties, they do have a private road that runs through it, uh, that runs through here. Uh, land use map, um, it is, uh, uh, residential low-medium density. And the zoning map here, uh, it's currently RA1, The applicant is hoping to rezone it to RA2. The RA2 is compatible with the land use. And the RA1, of course, its current zoning is a 40,000 square foot minimum lot size. The proposed zoning would bring that down to a 20,000 square foot minimum lot size. The Planning Commission made a positive recommendation for approval of the zone change at their meeting held on January 9th, 2025 with a 5-0 vote. Here's the property at street level. And that concludes my presentation. Any questions for Mr. Whitaker? We may have you back, thank you. Is the applicant here? Yes. Would you like to address the council? Come on up. Give us your name and address. Go ahead. Brandon Preece, representing Gilson Engineering, 12401 South 450 East here in Draper. Representing the applicant to favorable approval going from an R1 zoning to an R2 zoning. allows the applicant underneath the general plan to basically be in more control of what's around it. It's already, everything around it's already an R2 zone. We want to basically follow that lead and go to an R2 zone to allow for a future subdivision development of up to four properties, maintaining the private road access that already exists, and improving that road to a full right away based on the staff requirements for approval that's going to be coming later in the subdivision approval. I'm happy to answer any questions that you have. Any questions? Do you have any indication of exactly what will need to be done for that private road and how it might impact the other parcels and neighbors on that road? Right now it's planned to be a full a full right-of-way of 20. Let me verify here. I have plans that haven't been submitted for staff review yet, but I have a layout of what we're planning on that road. Yeah, it's actually a 30-foot road right away, which is exactly what was done in the neighboring subdivision with 12 1⁄2-foot lanes on each side plus curb and gutter fully paved all the way back to the access for the property to the south. I know one of the concerns that was brought up in the planning commission was by the owner of the property to the south, and that is to make sure that he has... fire access. I guess there was a fire a little while ago and getting the apparatus back there was challenging. And so part of this project would improve that to allow that apparatus to be able to get back there for public safety. Anyone else? All right, thank you, sir. Thank you. We'll have you back depending on what the public says. Anyone from the public that would like to address the council on item 6B, ordinance 1633? Give us your name and address. Sorry, Tim Johnson, 490 East, 13800 South. I'm the neighbor that's in the back of that road. I'm the only neighbor that accesses from the back there. I know he's mentioning 25 feet. I believe their current code is supposed to be 26 feet. I think they're trying to piggyback off of what Jarvie Lane did. but it's supposed to be current code. I think Jarvie Lane got in just before you guys changed the code to 26 feet. It's 31 feet total with curve and gutter. But I already came to the first meeting. This is pretty redundant, really. I mean, the approval's fine. I just wanted to clarify that I thought it was supposed to be 31 feet since it's going to be a fire apparatus road. So that's my only concern. Other than that, it's just... how we play out getting access throughout the construction, but I'm not sure that has anything to do with the zoning meeting right now. It's probably more for a meeting in the future, so. Thank you. All right, thanks. All right, anyone else from the public would like to address the council? All right, seeing no more public comment, we'll close the public hearing, bring it back to the council. Mr. Mayor, I make a motion that we approve ordinance 1633. All right, motion by Mr. Lowry to approve. Is there a second? Can I ask a question first? Absolutely. Go ahead. Jen, are there any concerns about the fire apparatus access with the difference in the road width? When they come in to make their application, we'll review it against our code. That includes the zoning code as well as the fire code to ensure it meets the standards. So if there are issues, they would be addressed at that time? Yes. Thank you, Jen. Is there a second? I'll second. All right, second by Ms. Fodry. Any further discussion? I think just make note that any of these concerns that maybe have been mentioned in the public hearing would be addressed to make sure that they comply to the city ordinances. Your second, good with that? All right. Mr. Lowry, how do you vote? Yes. Ms. Fodry? Yes. Ms. Lowry? Yes. Ms. Johnson? Yes. Mr. Green? Yes. All right, items approved unanimously, 5-0. Item 6C is next. This is also a public hearing. It is Resolution 2505. It's a resolution amending the adopted budget for Draper City for fiscal year 2024 through 2025. We'll have our finance director, Mr. John Byte. Come on up. You're already up. There you go. I was asked if we'd be out of here by 8, so I've got to make sure we can do that. So this is the budget amendment for the third quarter. There are, I can't remember how many items are on here, a few items on here. I'll just go through them individually. If you have questions, feel free to stop me during the discussion. So our first item is a housekeeping item. As we reviewed the police impact fee funds, we found that some police impact fee funds were spent where they couldn't and some were not spent as they could be and so this item is really just to make sure that we're in compliance with our impact fees and adjust the money around. It will result in a transfer of available cash of $550,000 from police impact fees and there's an amount still available and we will track that in finance and bring that forward in budgets in future years. The second item is a parks item. They have funding. Nope, this is the new one. Sorry, they're looking for funding for access to the Porter Rockwell Trail from 1300 East. You can see the picture here. They have done a study and are requesting $150,000 from parks impact fees to complete that trail access. The second is on the Bubbling Brook Pickleball Court. The HOA has chipped in $10,000. The city had done a budget amendment for $100,000. We went out to bid. The bids came in much higher. We adjusted things, added some other things, and went back out to bid again and came back And we are now requesting an additional $150,000, bringing the total project budget to $250,000 to complete the pickleball courts and the access there. So John, excuse me, just to belabor this a little, they already donated $10,000. Where does that show in the figures we see? Where's their $10,000 applied that they donated? In the original budget, we... $90,000 from park impact fees and $10,000 from the homeowners association. So that budget of the $100,000 was split between the two. Okay, thank you. Yep. Any other questions? All right. The next item is another access. This is a trail access from Cranberry Hills neighborhood to the Porter Rock Wall Trail. The residents organized an email campaign and wrote in requesting this. We received some approval from the UTA back in 2018. We need to get that easement. So we're good as far as the approval from UTA on the approach. The current landowner is willing to donate the land as an easement, but we need to finalize that easement agreement. We're requesting $41,000 from Parks Impact Fees to complete this access. The next one is the fire department is set to receive a new ambulance later in the fiscal year. As part of that, they also need a new power load system, which is a stretcher and stair chair. And so we are looking for funding to be able to provide that for the new ambulance. And the cost on that is $82. 2500 and we can pull that money from the ambulance fund. We purchased the building next to where we are currently storing the fire apparatus to put some of the apparatus in and we moved public services particularly the solid waste division into the same building where the fire apparatus were. With the combination of the two, we're lacking a little bit in office space. Firewood is proposing to bring in a container, the storage container, built for office space. The cost of this, that is $30,000 and then $10,000 to provide network access and other amenities to make the building properly to the city network. So we're looking for $40,000. That trailer will sit on the property that we own, just behind that former garage for the buses, on the property that the city owns. But it also will be a trailer that could be moved to a different location if that was necessary. Back in FY24, the council approved a budget amendment for $300,000, which at the time was the cost estimate to purchase a Bearcat, which is being used in the police SWAT team. When we got our final bid on the project, it was for $369,000. We came to the council, got an informal approval to go forward with that and to bring this amount, the additional amount of $69,000 to you in a formal budget amendment, and here we are. Police department is also requesting to install dash cameras in each police vehicle. This is a safety feature as well as provides for training and other opportunities for the department. The department receives funding from the state for alcohol enforcement. That funding has been being brought into the city over a number of years. We have set that aside. It sits in a restricted fund right now. So they're proposing to use some of that funding and then future grant money to sustain this program for a time. And the total cost of that will be $95,000. On to some stormwater issues. So we are doing some improvements on 700 West. As we've looked at that and negotiated with UDOT, There's 109,000 available in the CIP, and that puts us about 70,000 short, so we're proposing to use stormwater impact fees, which we are in need of using anyway to bring the total project budget to $180,000. Our pavement maintenance program, we typically set aside $3 million every year, and so we have a current balance of 351,740. And so we will, this proposal is to bring that total to $3 million. And streets are happy to talk to you about which roads are being improved with those funds. With the purchase of the property, one of the, and the sale of the property on 1700 East. One of the pieces that was involved with that was a storm, some storm drain improvements. And so this budget amendment, we currently have some budget set aside, $750,000 set aside to complete that. We're projecting that we could use an additional 500,000 bringing the total project budget to 1,250,000. Again, that's coming from storm water impact fees. AND WE ARE SITTING IN A POSITION WHERE WE NEED TO SPEND THOSE IMPACT FEES BY THE END OF THIS FISCAL YEAR. SO HOPING YOU'LL APPROVE THAT ONE FOR SURE. AND THAT ONE LOOKS LIKE A DUPLICATE. SO WE WILL NOT DO ITEM 2533. WE DON'T NEED TO DO THAT TWICE. With work at the point, it's possible that there's gonna be needs associated with that. And we would like to set aside some money to be able to have money available to do any needs assessments that are needed with that. And so we're asking for $100,000 from the general fund fund balance. We would work with the point project to get reimbursed for any of those funds that were actually spent on that project. And then item 2535, the city applied for a grant with the United States Department of Energy, the Energy Efficiency Block Grant, EECBG. And we have received $117,100. We are planning to use that funding to replace 1,200 streetlights with high efficiency lighting. We know there's some things happening at the federal level, and we will make sure that we have approval from the federal level to spend the funding before we actually proceed, but we wanted to at least get approval so that when we get all the information from the federal government, we're ready to go and can begin that project. Questions on this one or any of the other items on the budget amendment? I was just curious, do you have a spot picked out that you're doing the streetlights? So I believe these are all of the streetlights that are currently not high-efficiency lighting. Is that correct? I'm looking at Scott, and he's nodding yes. So it will take all of the – and we can probably provide you with a map of where that would be. How long will that take to replace 1,200 streetlights? It's going to take a while. We don't know because we're just kind of using the personnel that we have. We're not hiring anyone new to do this, so we're just fitting it in based on the grant. So it could take a little bit of time, and it probably won't reach all of our lights, but this is the amount of the grant, so that's how much we'll spend. All right. Any other questions? All right. Thank you, John. This is a public hearing. Is there anyone from the public who would like to address the council on 6C resolution 2505? All right. Seeing no public, we'll close the public hearing and bring it back to the council. Mr. Mayor. I move we approve resolution number 2505. Motion by Ms. Fowler to approve resolution 2505. Is there a second? I'll second. Second by Ms. Lowry. Any further discussion? We can remove the 25-33 from the budget. I was going to say, do we want to make a motion including excluding that one that was duplicated? I will add that to the motion. I'll second the new motion. All right. The new motion is to... APPROVED 2505, REMOVING THE DUPLICATE. AND THE SECOND STANDS. ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? SEEING NUMBERS, MADRI, HOW DO YOU VOTE? YES. MS. LOWERY? YES. MR. LOWERY? YES. MS. JOHNSON? YES. MR. GREEN? YES. ITEMS APPROVED UNANIMOUSLY 5-0. ARE THERE ANY COUNCIL MANAGER ITEMS? I HAVE QUITE A FEW, ACTUALLY. THE FIRST ONE I HAVE IS THAT AT THE TREE COMMITTEE MEETING THIS MORNING, They mentioned that some other cities in the area a couple times a year put on tree talks about issues regarding trees. Some of them do them at the library. Some of them do them in their council chambers. And I just wanted to bring it forward to see if that was something that the city would be okay with the tree committee pursuing and looking into. tree talk? Looks like you got a unanimous group. I got a question with that tree talk too. You know how we have the adopt a storm water plan? Is there a way we could do an adopt a tree? You know, because we have certain areas where I know that it's been difficult to take care of them. Yeah, I don't know, Red, if you have a comment on that. I'm just curious. Is there a way? Yes, we certainly can. We do have some areas of the city, not necessarily tree, but, you know, adopt an area. And what we find mostly is they just go neglected. Or they're ambitious at first, but then as time goes on, they're forgotten. The momentum gets lost. Yeah. So it's certainly something we could look at or do, but... to pursue that. You have more? Oh yes, I do. The second issue that I have is that I've had a couple residents reach out to me about parking concerns on South Mountain. I think kind of the same issue that Ms. Lowry brought up last council meeting about short-term rentals or ADUs, multiple apartments within different houses. And so I just, was wondering if that might be something that we could look into as some of these neighborhoods that do have a lot of rentals looking into parking regulations or something about that. If there was anything that we were thinking about doing. Yeah, well and I know Scott's looked at parking within certain neighborhoods within South Mountain, so I'm assuming that's the neighborhood you're referring to. On the planning side, I know we, you know, council made some modifications to our ADU code, and we are actually going out and contacting property owners that have those extra units and working with them to get them into compliance. Okay, so that's kind of part of the ADU is looking at the parking as well. So if... they qualify for an ADU permit then yes there are were standards for them to provide one off street parking space in addition to the spaces for the home itself we did limit parking to one side of the street and that really did not go well with a lot of the residents. So you have about a 50-50 mix of people that want the parking on both sides and those who do not. It is a hardship for some of the folks who live there because they come home later in the evening, they don't have a place to park, and they have a hard time walking with their groceries. So we... We were looking at different options to address that. The emergency access is really at that point in the alleyway when we have parking on both sides. So right now we have parking restricted on one of the sides of the street up there, but we're really not enforcing that at this time because of that hardship. So it's really something that we can pick back up if that's what the council wants us to do. It just sort of fizzled without a resolution. Okay. Well, I think the hope had been that as we bring more and more of these ADUs into compliance and get illicit ADUs, that this parking situation may rectify itself. Is that correct, Joan? Yeah, to some degree, yes. I think that specific neighborhood, because the roads are so narrow, the properties are quite small, there's not a whole lot of parking. So if you have no ADU on the property, but they've got more than two cars, they're on the street. We are working on the compliance with the ADUs. We have had several homes go on the market to be sold to owner-occupied. We've had modifying how they're leasing their property. So they're leasing to, you know, one family instead of multiple units. Right, right. And if we are approving their ADU, it's a requisite that they do have off-street parking, correct? Correct, yes. So, I mean, we had identified upwards of 50 that were out of compliance, right? Like, there was a large number of out-of-compliance units. So as we bring them into compliance, hopefully, we will see some improvement in this issue. It's just slow going. This is actually a different neighborhood. It's a neighborhood by the fire station and the one across the street that I think were not designed for internal ADUs and they've just been doing it as well and a lot of Airbnbs there. But I think it's the same issue from that other neighborhood. What they really need to do is report the illicit ADU to Jen. Okay. Yeah, so they can either reach out to me. On our website, we do have a page where they can fill out a code enforcement violation complaint, and our code enforcement officer will go out. Is that anonymous? It can be, yeah. Okay. Okay, thank you. If that's helpful, I can pass that on to them. Okay, number three. The Dog Park gentlemen who were here the last, at our last city council meeting have a new idea. They would like to suggest that we open our parks for yappy hour, which would be a structured two-hour window in a designated park that would allow the dog owners to have off-leash time without the need for new infrastructure. And so I just wanted to see if anybody was in favor of that. This is at the dog park or? No, this is parks throughout the city. I just want to pass on information to them about how people. Off leash? Yes, off leash. That violates our ordinance. I don't even know how you would. I just think that's a liability. I don't think the city wants to take on. That's why we have dog parks. It's yappy hour every hour. Okay, great. Thank you. Okay, and my last thing is that, well, actually, that's fine. I'm good. Anyone else? If there's, Ms. Chalbert, go ahead. Real quick, we have our volunteer appreciation breakfast March 15th. We haven't yet selected the volunteers of the year to recognize. So if you have anybody, it could be on our committees or just anybody in the community that we could recognize. We're looking for a name. And then on the same line, we're looking for someone for Grand Marshal. So if you can start thinking about that. That's it. All right. Anyone else? All right. Is there a motion to adjourn? So moved. I motion to adjourn. Is there a second? All right, all in favor of adjournment, say aye. Aye. Are there any opposed? All right, we are adjourned.