Council, citizens, and staff, I called October 21st, 2025 City Council meeting to order at 5.31 p.m. Clerk, will you please call the roll? Yes. Let me share my screen as well, if I may. Mayor Ingerman? Here. Mayor Pro Tem Eubanks? Here. Council Member Mulvey? Here. Council Member Cole? Here. Council Member Salazar? Here. Council Member Blue? I thought I promoted him. He's there. Council Member Blue, we didn't hear you. Still can't hear you, Council Member Blue, but you're off mute. Okay. So present, though. And then Council Member Hudson? You just need to- Sorry, I was just promoted. I'm sorry. I'm here. And can you hear me now? Yes, thank you. Mayor, you have a quorum. Thank you very much. Would everyone please rise and join me for the Pledge of Allegiance, please? I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it stands one nation under God indivisible with liberty and justice for all. Thank you. We'll move on. Is there any objections to the agenda? Hearing none, the agenda is approved as presented. Next, we'll move on to public comment. Public comment is designed for you to share your thoughts and concerns with city council, but it's not an interactive discussion. If you are attending tonight's virtual meeting and would like to give public comment, please sign up by typing your name and address into the chat feature. If you've called into tonight's meeting, the clerk will recognize you by the last four digits of your phone number. We'll pause to give individuals a chance to sign up. Madam Mayor, may I be recognized a moment? Yes, Council Member Mulvey. I just want to make, I submitted a written comment in advance of the last meeting, but it was not in time. So it does not pertain to today's agenda. And I would simply ask that the members read it if they haven't already. It's just written writing. I'm not going to read it out loud. Thank you, Council Member Mulvey. Clerk Goins, do you have anyone signed up for public comment? Nobody has signed up online and nobody has called in. All right. Thank you. We'll go ahead and move on to the presentation of the minutes. Are there any corrections to the minutes from the October 14th, 2025 City Council meeting? Hearing none, the minutes are presented. Excuse me, Madam Mayor. Thank you. We used to note that a person was excused. Do we still do that? It says absent. It used to say absent excused. We're going to have to ask Clerk Duffy when she's available next time. Thank you. All right. Do we have any objections to the minutes? Hearing none, the minutes are approved as presented. Moving on to the consent agenda. On tonight's consent agenda is resolution 25-47, which approves a utility underground access easement agreement with Core Electric Cooperative. Can I have a motion, please, for the items on consent? Move to approve the items on consent. Okay. I have a motion and a second. Clerk Goins, will you please call the vote? Yes, and can I just clarify that it was Councilmember Blue that motioned and Councilmember Cole that seconded? Yes. Thank you. Mayor Pro Tem Eubanks? Mayor Pro Tem Eubanks? I see you're on mute. Okay. We can come back to him. Council Member Mulvey? Aye. Mayor Ingerman? Aye. Thank you. Council Member Cole? Aye. Council Member Hudson? Yes. Council Member Salazar? Yes. And Council Member Blue? Yes. Council Member Eubanks? I think we lost him off the meeting. He's probably going to rejoin. Okay. My guess is he's trying to rejoin and hopefully connect his audio. Should we wait? No, we don't know how long it'll be. You've got a majority. So we'll go ahead and move on to general business. Okay, the motion passes. Thank you. Our first item on general business is the Douglas County Sheriff's Office update, and we are joined by Chief Joel White. I'll go ahead and turn it over to you, Chief. Hi, good afternoon, everybody. Can you guys hear me okay? We can. Great. Thank you guys for always having me. It's always a pleasure to present in front of you. Today's just a quick PowerPoint stats just to kind of go over what's going on around Castle Pines and kind of report what we have really occurring and a few other things. You guys have my PowerPoint. If you can shift through the first couple of slides, that's just our chain of command and not, not a lot of changes that have occurred. So everybody's still in place. We added division chief Ron Hadavan to our professional standards division. It comes from a long line of administrative background and has been a great addition to our command staff. Next. This is our organizational chart for the organization. It's myself, six teams of patrol and administrative division, which includes our traffic division. And Castle Pines falls within all of those units between traffic and each one of our patrol teams. Next, please. A makeup of our map with District 52 being Castle Pines. Next, please. And then I'll just dive into our stats for the third quarter. I'll try to keep this up to date, but I'm just going to kind of start going through the stats. If you have any questions, feel free to ask. Some of it might take an explanation as we go on through the stats. As I look through the stats, we're good. In all total, we're setting about 1,838 calls for service, which we kind of discuss quarterly, and that's all encompassing all these stats. There's a couple pages of stats. This is the third quarter, July 1st through the 30th. Obviously, we had July 4th and Labor Day weekend being major holidays. within those, which usually you'll see a slight bump in stats via fireworks. And just you'll see some of the fireworks complaints went up, but it wasn't atrocious in Castle Pines. It really held under control. Our biggest problem right now in Castle Pines is I want to discuss, which is kind of alarming and not, I wanted to go through our burglary. We're seeing a rash of burglaries. Some of them are very explained, and then some are not in this quarter that I want to dive into a little bit. As you look back at our break, we have seven stats total for this quarter. The first one was a trespass of a school at Trailblazer Elementary where the juveniles were caught, and that's going on through our juvenile process. The second was a domestic violence related that was, it ended up being a no crime in this deputies respond out to burglaries or a lot of these crimes. And if they don't find any crime was occurred, they still write it up as a burglary because the allegation of a burglary and being in this domestic violence, it's a mandatory police report. But that ended up being no crime. Our third one was it was a, it was a burglary that, It was known to the family. So it was the family had left town and a burglary occurred at their house. And it was friends of one of the juveniles who lived in the house. The father came in and refused to press charges. So that case was closed. The fourth one was no crime. It was a natural cause. And to give you an example of like a natural cause, like a base had fallen and broken through a window and ended up It was called in as a burglary, but it was a natural cause of something breaking into that house and something occurring. The fifth one was a mailbox. So somebody, they'd opened up a community mailbox and the mail was, one of the pieces of mail was going through. That was forwarded off to postal as no crime. I get excited because it's kind of a pleasure to talk about the massage parlor burglary. which happened up in Castle Pines. That's a big one that we talked about at the last city council. And so you guys are pretty aware of that from our last meeting at the Jade therapeutic massage parlor. We talked about, it was an ongoing investigation. I think I included that we're getting close on an arrest. And in fact, we have made an arrest since we last met. As you know, somebody entered that store, stole $6,000 out of a purse. We'll move along. We posted something on social media or both on social media and a bolo throughout the Metro community. Parker had the same suspect with an identical MO that went into a massage parlor in Parker and stole $460 out of a person that. We sent a facial recognition photo off the Colorado Bureau of Investigations, and that came back with no match. We posted something on Crimestoppers. We also got another tip out of Northland, which a similar crime had occurred up there. Through Crimestoppers, we got an anonymous tip, and we kind of zoomed in on a camera on a license plate through our LPR, our clock system. And it located a vehicle that was used in both the Parker and the Castle Pines. And that vehicle was in the area of both burglaries on those dates that those burglaries occurred. And then we were able to obtain a photograph and ID the suspect in that case. Our impact unit went out and located the suspect at the Hyatt Regency in the Denver Tech Center. That person was taken into custody outside the Hyatt Regency. where they found $3,000 cash on this person. Subsequently, a search warrant was established, and they executed a search warrant in that gentleman's room. Inside, there was a chase bag with $22,000 in cash and $100 nominations and $50 bills, a plastic bag containing psilocybin mushrooms, and that suspect was booked. into the county jail and we'll wrap him up with the burglaries that we know. So a success story that we just want to tell you that you're very important. The community is very important and our investigations did a fantastic, our investigations division along with our impact unit did a fantastic bringing that one to a conclusion. And last but not least, we had another burglary that occurred within the county. And there was no crime attached to that, not a lot of notes on it. We had two homeless contacts in the county. One was at the parking lot where somebody was contacted, no crime occurred, and they were let go and did not return to the area. A second one was at the Shell gas station. they were just refueling and getting service and no crime was attached to that one. Liquor violations, again, we can probably, it's just not an increase, but we just want to know that that's a continual one going on. There was an underage party at a residence, which was taken care of, and that would have been one of those. And then one at the, there was just no crime report. There was no crime that occurred that we responded to. You can kind of go down to the next slide, please. And this is, as always, gets a little sticky, but I wanted to kind of go into this. Sex assault, sex offenses. You'll see a couple of them. Both cases that occurred in the first part of the quarter were a mental health client that had claimed sex assault, but no sex assault had occurred and no crime was ever established in that one. And the second two cases, was no crime in the second, I'm sorry, in the second part of this quarter. And then the third part of the quarter was a family reported sex assault that was a little older and it had just been reported. So it was kind of something that happened in the past and it occurred and it was familiar family on family. I don't think you have an abundance of sex crimes going on, but those questions always come up with stats and they're very important. You obviously know about the stabbing, which Chief McIntosh had addressed in a prior council meeting. And then street racing, which has been kind of a complaint that's been going on. So we have three street racing complaints. And we are and have been increased patrols. I know that we talked about Daniels Park, which is not technically in Castle Pines. that we've established both our traffic team and our graveyard patrol teams and our swing ship teams have done an increase, a substantial increase in patrol, both in that area and on Monarch. And we're seeing some success. I don't know if you're getting constituents complaints still. Is that still occurring? Yes. Yes. I would agree. About two weeks ago, I had some residents complain still. Okay. We're going to stay on that. And we're going to get out and continue those contacts. We're getting a lot of traffic tickets out of those. And they're increased. They're logging their increased patrols. But we'll continue to step up those patrols. And then as you go to that, the last piece, which really draws up our 1,800 numbers, is our traffic stops. And I'm going to kind of go into those in the next slide. as we go down. And then unknown troubles, I'm gonna talk about unknown troubles a little bit before we move on. But the unknown troubles are, we had a no crime that was just, it was reported as an unknown trouble, but we also had a death that was non-criminal, a natural death. And those occur on a pretty regular basis. You guys know it's not in this quarter, but with that, if you go, yeah, you're on the right slide. We have two recent burglaries that occurred in Castle Pines through slider glass doors where we had a perimeter, a large perimeter set. And it's just, it's not reported in this quarter stats. It's a crew. We don't have them identified yet. The same crew also hit a residence in Parker. If you have time, you can click on the link. It's Douglas County Sheriff's Office Castle Pines Burglary Investigation. It shows a couple pictures of the suspects investigating our investigations. It's a priority for our investigations because when the crews come in Douglas County, those take priority. So that's being worked extremely hard by our Property Crimes Division. And I really hope by the next city council meeting that we... are able to report back. They are tied to Asian business owners, and we're always trying to communicate with that community to not leave their valuables at home and not bring cash. So we're kind of continuing that outreach to our Asian business owners. Next, please. May I be recognized for a question on that one, please? Absolutely. Thank you. Pardon me? I said I too was waiting. Would you like to go first? No, you interrupted. Let's do it. That incident occurred in my district, and it was sliding glass doors on either side of a friend of mine. So I'm quite familiar with what occurred, and we didn't have any clarity that there was an Asian business owner involved. Is this the Glen Oaks one that you're referring to? With the sliding glass door? Oakview, I believe. Oakview was the street. I don't have a lot of information because I was out. I do have a... I just know that they've been linked to Asian business owners. I can update you. I can ask for a little bit further information. I don't know, Alan, if you have some... Alan, Commander Stanton's on this. Do you have any further information on those? I don't, but we can get that. Yeah, my apologies. We'll get that. No worries. I've heard from a number of people in that neighborhood, and they're all quite worried and concerned for their safety with these sliding glass doors. So if it's tied to something that's unrelated to their home, that's one thing. But if it's not, then they need to understand what to look out for for their safety. So it would be helpful. Thank you. I have other questions. I'll wait to the end of your report. I can address that. We've done some social media outreach on this. These crews, they'll hit business owners in general. and they'll follow them home from their businesses. Most are Asians, and I don't know all the racists involved in this. However, they're business owners that usually bring home cash for their businesses. They're targeted based on their businesses, and there's usually some tied to businesses. I don't know the exact specifics in this case. It was turned over to investigations relatively quickly. I know that we had an active scene the night of. And we did a good job trying to follow up, but realized that these are targeted residences based on, it's not random. They're targeted based on business owners and people that store cash, jewelries, and jewelry in their house. I think one of them was jewelry as well, but they're specifically targeted. As far as I believe, and I'll continue to believe that our communities are safe, we haven't seen one reoccur. We've established a really direct pattern in both sections, targeted increased patrols and targeted enforcement in those areas. I'm not always previous to what's going on in the investigation. They'll tell us that, continue, they'll update us on other crimes that have occurred in the metro area. These are typically, and I'm not speaking, I don't know for a fact, but these are typically crews. that are multi-state crews. So they'll come in town, hit a few places and move into the next city. And in general terms, that's why we don't see an ongoing theme. The crews will continue. It's very organized with a larger structured infrastructure. And those crews will move from one seat to another. The next crew will come in and again, target the Denver metro area. But this is a Denver metro area problem. other than Parker and Castle Castle Pines. I'm not aware of any that's happened up North. I'll have to ask our crime analysts for that, but it's always good to walk and be safe. It's an easy point entry. I'll just tell you an easy point entry. It's sliding glass doors. You don't have to kick a front door when you can just pop a back slider glass door. There's not much you can do to stop those. You can't alarm your, your houses. These crews are in and out very quickly. And yeah, but we're not seeing an ongoing hit of our neighborhood up in Castle Pines. And again, we are doing targeted enforcement in those areas. Thank you. Any other further questions? Council members, if you have questions, why don't we let him get all the way through his presentation and then... proceed as we normally do with questions at the very end. And then I'm gonna ask council members, if you have questions to ask to please raise your hand on the screen. Okay, we're good. I'll continue on with our traffic stats. There's some deviation from our traffic stats to 700, 718 and 722. The way Commander Stanton runs the stats, he has to do it specifically in different avenues. So there's a deviation between 700 and 722. There's a 718 in there specifically. What we polled is the ticket count, which is 722. 547 are attributed to Castle Pines, and that's going to your court and back to your community. There's some county tickets within there. I'm sorry, 19. State was 93. And warnings were 73. So we're not given a lot of warnings. However, we are writing a lot of tickets. Next slide. Oh, sorry. You have them right here. I'm sorry. I apologize. Go back on this list out what's going on with our traffic enforcement. It lists out, like I said, you'll see the deviation from 718 to 722. Again, these are just very... Each... Each way you pull stats comes out a little bit different, but we're right in that area, which is pretty normal for us. The big ones are when you look at other violations, that stat comes up, and other violations are typically license plate and registration related. As Commander Stanton pulled those up, you'll see the other violations. And there's 60, and it's a state ticket because it's a registration ticket that they're not paying to the state. In abundance, we've seen 47, I'm sorry, 51 of the grand total as far as sign or signal violations. And as always, we do a ton of speed enforcement in Castle Pines, and we have 493 total tickets as far as speeding goes. That's the charge thing, and I... I believe accidents is one final one, and that, I believe, is good news. We're not obviously seeing fatalities, which is always good for the city, and that we're keeping some with enforcement. You'll see an automatic reduction in fatalities and accidents. We had 19 total no injury accidents. We had three with possible injury and two with suspected minor injury. That's really good news. That means that the roads are safe and people, again, we're not seeing the fatalities. And I really, really believe that the good majority of our accidents are non-injury and such positive news. All right. Last but not least is go to the next slide. I just want to talk to you guys a little bit about our... Blue Envelope Program, which I was, myself and Commander Stant were to get to initiate here within the last month. We have these and we're pushing them out through social media to the community. The Blue Envelope Program is to assist both somebody with a disability and a police officer with a positive interaction and it's known disabilities. We, this is a program that's going on throughout the metro area, Boulder, Jefferson County. We really designed our program after those. We don't drive to people's houses to give this information out. We've pushed out and it's really incumbent upon the folks with disabilities. You know, if absolutely we can get them this gear, which I'll talk about in a second, but you'll see the blue envelope on the bottom left. And really what that's geared to is you can either keep it in a backpack or in your vehicle. And as part of that, there's some documentation that can go in there. You can put your registration in there. You can put your insurance for folks with disabilities. And the right side, that person fills out what their disability is. So if they're hearing impaired, it would list, I'm hearing impaired and at better arms. When you hand that to the police officer, It tells them they're hearing impaired or describes their disability. And it really arms that first responder into a better communication. So if they have mental health issues, they can write that on there as well. All these different agencies have the same blue envelopes or probably different shades of blue. It's hard to get the same shade of blue for each community. But it's really good. It's been productive. We're starting to see people pick up these envelopes and use them. I just had somebody with cerebral palsy in my... my office that was, the deputy thought they were intoxicated, but they worked through it. And she came in and brought the deputy treats for basically picking up on the disability rather quickly. On the right, you'll see a key chain and a lanyard, more geared towards juveniles or children with disabilities. They like to put them on their backpacks or attach them in one way, shape or form to those, to what they carry or just wear the lanyard around with their keys. That's been popular. So they both are labeled with blue envelope. And it, again, arms our deputies with the ability to say, okay, this person has the blue label bracelet, this person has blue envelope, or this person has the blue key chain. And they can just initiate a different contact. And again, it's for any type of disability. We don't vet the disability because it's HIPAA protected. But it's usual. It's not abused throughout the metro area. There's not an abundance of people picking up these envelopes. And quite frankly, I've engaged our deputy sheriffs. If they're violating the law, we can take their disabilities into account. We still do a thorough investigation, whether that's a traffic stop or a criminal investigation. That's about it for the presentation. I'm willing to take questions. All right. Thank you, Chief White, for the presentation. Council Member Cole, I'll go to you first. Chief, you mentioned the Blue Envelope program. Did you say it was also in Boulder County? I apologize. I couldn't hear you directly. Are you asking if this was in Boulder County as well, the Blue Envelope? Yes, sir. It is, yes. That's where we got some of our information on how to address this. Mayor Pro Tem Eubanks. Thank you. So at the expense of sounding like a broken record, the topic of, and by the way, thank you for the update. I really appreciate the thoughtfulness and the thoroughness. The e-bikes, motorcycles, mopeds, whatever you want to call them these days. And again, at the expense of sounding like a broken record, last week I was on, there's Wildcat and there were teams on these things in the middle of the, like in the right lane doing wheelies. And it was the first time I've seen these kids where I was actually concerned, like, oh, my gosh, something might actually happen to them. The reason I bring that up is, A, because I know it's dangerous. But more specifically, it's kind of like, for lack of a better way to put it, the word on the street is they're just getting educated. They're not getting tickets or getting in trouble. It's just education. Is there a point where some of these, in my opinion, dangerous things will, like you all, be a little more aggressive with repercussions? because I heard one kid was laughing. He's been warned three times, but he was laughing about it. He was laughing about the King Soopers on the game. So I just wanted to bring it up and just ask your thoughts on that. Yeah. No, I like it. I know that we are doing an education piece with this. It's a great question. Personally, I think we should cite. and continue some heavy duty enforcement. I'll look at that with our traffic team. Our traffic team is engaging our patrol division as to the laws, what exactly to write, how to address it. It is an ongoing problem. There's an abundance of these electric bikes, electric scooters that is throughout the county. Everywhere I drive, you see them everywhere. Like they're everywhere. I was in Larkspur last week and saw them there. I'll work with our patrol and traffic teams to do less education and more enforcement, especially on egregious. You know, we don't necessarily, you know, especially those that are right in the lane of traffic. Pop and Willie's, I was in Littleton just a couple of days ago. There was about six blocking traffic. So, yeah, absolutely think we should be more aggressive. I agree with that. And I'll have those conversations with our traffic and patrol teams. tomorrow. I appreciate it. It comes from safety. I get nervous with these kids. It's not a matter of if, it's when someone gets hit. I got to tell you, I'm actually alarmed that we haven't seen a fatality. It surprises me. I think we're probably in store for one, unfortunately. I know it goes without saying that you wonder how they get the bikes and who's not really watching what they're doing or just There's no oversight as to children and what they're doing with these e-bikes and electric suitors. But yeah, I totally agree with heavier enforcement. Thank you, Chief White. Council Member Mulvey. I would like to have us think about an ordinance similar to what one of my colleagues in Aurora did where we actually hold people accountable. as parents or guardians. So please think about that, friends. Chief, I want to ask you about patrols at Elk Ridge Park. I got a video from somebody who had some kids riding their bikes or their vehicles on that turf. I know we've been watching it. I just want to confirm that that's still a priority for us. It is. I was provided screenshots from that video and immediately pushed that out to our patrol division for increased patrols. Not only are Castle Pines cars, our traffic units to get them up and make sure they're checking that field. It was obviously, I don't want to see those bikes in any park, especially in ball fields and playgrounds where our children are participating in sports activities or playing on playgrounds. So it is a priority and we'll continue that priority at Oak Ridge Park and amongst other parks within your community. Council Member Hudson. Thank you. I'm going to hit three things really, really quickly because you've touched on some of them. I do actually hear from those neighbors about that burglary on October 3rd in that area. And I've heard that story retold to me several different times. That's not exactly what the neighbors are telling me, too. So there may be a communication issue as well. But they have reached out to me multiple times looking for some information, whether they're going to be hit again or something along those lines. So they are really concerned. And so far, they're thrilled with the Douglas County Sheriff's Department. They think they've been super served. So keep doing that, but we'd love to be able to update them. So whatever you find out, we'd love to be able to share it as well. On the e-bikes as well, I also am concerned. My question is a little different about it, though. What tools do you need? Because we've been talking about this for more than a year as these become more and more popular. I think we've expressed, I think all of us have expressed our concern, especially now that we're going to see winter and ice and snow. I don't think kids are going to probably block their bikes up or their scooters, but roads are going to be more slick, more dangerous. Cars are going to be driving on ice as well. What tools do you need from us or even advocacy with commissioners? What do you need from us to be able to do something actually about it? So two things. I'm just going to address. If there's a need for a community meeting, especially within these neighborhoods, councilman, please let me know. I'm definitely willing to come out and meet with folks and have those discussions. And we can figure out a variety of ways to do that. But I'm definitely willing to come out in the community and have those meetings with those neighbors, get into as much information as I can, and be a little bit more specific about what I'm given. And we'll continue that. Like it'd be an honor for me to come out and speak and maybe stop some rumors and stop, you know, neighbors say, well, I heard this and I heard that. I think we can be a little bit more transparent, what we know, what we don't know. And maybe I can just be like, there's certain things I can't share. We do that on a pretty consistent basis. Do you need an ordinance? Do you need something from us from a policy standpoint? No, I think the law covers it. I think it covers it very well. In talking with the sheriff like two weeks ago, I really think that we really probably need to just go into a hard line with these and step up our enforcement and step up our ticketing almost in no tolerance. We're going to have to push that out through social media and through our public information officers. But I think that that's one of the only things we can do is be like, if you're violating these laws, we're going to have no tolerance. And you're going to be ticketed in just like an MIP and just like some of these other things. You're going to have to come to court, not pay a fine, and maybe speak to those actions. I think we're probably headed in that direction in hopes that it'll save a life. I'm really worried that it's an annoyance. Most importantly, I'm worried that whenever young folks are going to get killed, just lack of supervision and these tools were just given by them. Well, I don't think it's an annoyance. I think it's dangerous. And just really quickly, because other people are in line, I've heard you say juvenile issues multiple times in this call and this update. That's rare that we hear that so often. I think like four times you heard about burglaries, different events in the city. Are we having a juvenile issue in our city right now? I think just based on the crimes that I want to touch on yet, I think that juvenile crime is pretty consistent. I think it's when you talk about fireworks, when you talk about some of these burglaries, you know, we report, um, I think, I don't know that we have a juvenile issue other than it seems to be a little bit of the highlighted crimes that are occurring right now. And, um, I, I, I don't know that we have an uptick in juvenile crime. I just, these are the ones that flashed out at us that we probably should cover based on prior conversations. Appreciate it. Thank you, chief. And it is also should be noted. This was the, this was a lot of this quarter was July, August and get it. you'll see that rise or uptick in crime, especially with juveniles during the summer. Council Member Salazar. Thank you, Chief White. Excuse my dog. The update. One question I have is just the communication. So if residents, you know, had some residents ask me also about, you know, wanting to understand what happened with the burglaries. So for communication, do they have to be subscribed to something or they have to be seeking out information or is there a way that they can get that information? And also, do you provide some sort of tips for them, for people that want to know, like, what do I do in case, you know, to prevent that from happening or some safety precautions they can take to prevent them being the next one that gets hit? Yeah, great question. I'll address it real quick. You know, the preventative piece is if a burglar wants to get in your home, they're going to get in your home. People are locking their houses and they're busting windows. There's not much you can do to stop that. I think we could probably do some community outreach in the next couple of days to maybe address some of these concerns. Again, I think we probably could do a better community outreach. I'm willing to come out and do some of that outreach. What I will tell you, if you plug into our Facebook page or a lot of our social media, I think you guys probably get more information than I get from our social media. We're really good at updating social media. If they're plugged into our social media platforms, they're going to see what's going on in and around their community. It's a broad picture. It's not going to report all the crime statistics, but we do do some online reporting as far as crime statistics. It's usually a quarter after as they compile them and push them out. And it's yearly. But I definitely think we could either do some education within the community. I'd love to get with you guys and collaborate as far as that goes and figure out how that looks. I definitely want to stop the rumors. I think rumors kill us. And I think I really feel like it's a problem. And I'm sorry, Council Member Hudson, I do want to educate. I just want to reiterate, I'm going to look at our statues. If there's something I think that you can possibly pass for this, I'll get back with you and we'll discuss that. So I should have said that to you. That's great, I think all of us are interested in that, so thank you. Right, any additional questions for Chief White? Council Member Mulvey? You're on mute, Council Member Mulvey. Sorry, I was trying to unmute. Chief, if you wouldn't mind while looking into it, and because there was a chat, question from one of the colleagues. The ordinance I was referring to was the one that was proposed recently and passed in Aurora. I don't have the number. I can get it from Council Member Bergen, who I've spoken with about it at length from there. But your view on that would be very informative. So I would ask if that's one you could check on. I'll be discussing it in my report with my colleagues. If you can just get me whatever that bill was, that'd be great, and I'll look into it. Okay, yeah, shoot me your email, and then I'll do that directly. Thank you. All right, any additional questions? All right, thank you very much. Chief White, for being here this evening and your report. And we are going to go and move on to our final item on our general business tonight, which is Resolution 25-48, a resolution of the City Council of the City of Castle Pines, Colorado, adopting the 2025 Transportation Master Plan. Our staff presentation will be given by City Engineer, Dole Grobinick. And I'll turn it over to you, Dole. Thank you, Mayor. Good evening, Council. Happy to be here again. You know, I presented this during a work session in late, early September or so. So I'm really here just to kind of be available to answer questions now that you all have had more time to review it. And so feel free to ask away. All right. Council members, if you have additional questions for Dole, please raise your hand and I will call on you. And then we'll do a round robin as well, like we normally do at the dais. So Council Member Mulvey, we'll start with you. So am I doing one question? That's correct. Or debate. OK. Mike, the question I'd like to ask is, were you asked to leave out the microtransit study that the county's looking at doing to expand the link into our town? That's a great question. I was not asked to not include that. That was, that had not been decided or to the point where, you know, where it is today when we published and really wrapped up the findings back in April. Thank you. Additional questions, Councilmembers? Councilmember Mulvey, we'll go back to you. Yeah, when we looked at this previously, we focused at one point on the interest in having medians and a median refuge, and I raised the issue of changing our ordinance. Did that get considered or perhaps weighed in at all? I'll have to think back to because I think during that meeting this did come up and I feel like council you guys had an answer to that okay I can't say that I have been involved with that discussion because we brought up the refuge island specific to the roundabout that we're putting in at Buffalo Trail and Monarch and the benefit of those Thank you. I don't see any other questions from council members. Council Member Mulvey, do you still have questions? Yes, thank you. With respect to the changes that are identified as possible that are not yet done, should I understand that these are things that are under consideration, but not requesting an appropriation for the 2026 year? Yes, I think, you know, there's always a cost-benefit ratio that is applied to these things. And although they're identified in the transportation plan as something that's recommended, you know, the benefit can just be real minor. And so it's really more of the kind of thing where we will add this to the cue, so to speak, or the list that if we come through and have other work in the area, it might be worth to go ahead and lump in some of these other smaller things at the same time. Thank you. Council Member Mulvey, go ahead and ask the rest of your questions because I don't, and Council Members, if something comes up, please raise your hand and I'll interrupt Council Member Mulvey. Thank you. One of the things that came up that I asked about last time was the light that was proposed in front of the DCS Montessori School and how that intersects with pedestrian ability to cross there because it was brought up in the transportation plan for traffic management. But now we're also looking at trails and we have this other safety plan. Is that within the scope of this, those other two functions of the light? So if you'll have to, I have the transportation plan pulled up in front of me. Page 45. Okay. I figured that might happen. Sorry. If you wouldn't mind asking, you're referring to the possible signalization there at the entrance just west of Village Square Drive. Yes. Well, I'm not. Yes, it is just west of Village Square Drive. And so the question that came up before that we didn't really have you had to go back and consider was that that light had previously been considered infeasible. when we were talking about trails years ago. And now it's brought up in this transportation plan for traffic management purposes. But there are other parts of the transportation plan which focus on safety. And this would be a pedestrian crossing issue and safety issue. And then as well, we're also reviewing the trails master plan. So my question is, Are those considerations of pedestrian safety, walkability and trails and connecting to the shopping center that were previously raised, are they part of the scope of this transportation plan? So, you know, there's our transportation system is, as I said, it's a system and it's all connected. And so the multimodal pedestrian access is definitely a part of the transportation system, as is, you know, pedestrian safety at intersections the intersection that you identified you know we as i as i mentioned during my um presentation in september was one of the things that had changed since the 2017 version was published was just the lack of busing at the schools and that lack of that lack of blessing then forced you know parents to all of a sudden have to drop off and pick up their kids, which wasn't really factored in to some of the way these schools had been designed and laid out originally. And so we identified a whole list. We added the school traffic impacts to this study, and we identified some things that we would recommend perhaps chatting with the school district about. that were very much related to school traffic. And this, the signal you've identified is definitely one of those things that should be discussed with the school as a potential way to help their users come and go. And so your fundamental question is, we're trying to be inclusive with this study. And, you know, the Trails Master Plan has some on-street and off-street trails, you know, so they go into some of those and we tend to stay on-street. But, you know, it's all connected. Thank you. And I do really appreciate that you brought up that discussion because that was something I was hoping to highlight in my deliberation section of our consideration. So thank you for that. And thank you also because my next question was really about highlighting things that we identify today. Madam Mayor, may I ask my next question? Yes, please proceed with the rest of your questions unless council members raise their hand, then I'll interrupt you. Okay, thanks. So as I'm looking at this plan, it's identifying three new things roughly. but it's not going into a subsequent year. And in the world that I function in as our liaison to transportation issues, we see the transportation master plans as something that would support a grant application. And in this plan, there's a ton that supports a lot of the set-asides that we see coming down the pike. With all that in mind, are we looking at this being evergreen and being able to add to it in another year as we see needs evolve? You know, that last word, as I think critical, is I think that, you know, if you and I mentioned this last time. If you think about how much the city has evolved since this was published in 2017, you know, when this project first kicked off, it was really I was really impressed when I was reading through the 2017 version. And it was like, check, check, check, check. I mean, the city had really accomplished. and put energy and resources into many of those goals that were identified in 2017. And so I think that the revision is not only updating, it's reflecting, and it is making recommendations for the future. And then I think, you know, tonight is to see what kind of questions there are, and then for us to wrap up the report, make it final, publish it, and then that kind of begins the planning and future process for us to be thinking about and with your guys partnership for future improvements in the city. Well, thank you for that. It's, we set the policy. It's a little different than that. And there are things that I think. Council member Mulvey, I may approach him. Eubanks has his hand up. So I just wanted to move to him before you went to your next question. Yeah, I'm just curious how many more questions there are, and are these germane to voting on this resolution tonight? If not, may I suggest that Council Member Mulvey and Mr. Gravenick take this offline? Well, that's very kind of you. They are germane. Would you like me to explain how or why? Council Member, no. Okay, thank you. May I then do my follow-up? Yes, Council Member Mulvey, you can finish with this question. Thank you. I wanted to respond back to Mr. Grabenik. And thank you very much for all this. I do feel like there are things that counsel in a work session might see and want to add to this. And our role today is to approve it as written. And so the evolution of it is something that's important to me so my question to follow up on this is knowing how much work went into it if there is a desire for council to make a policy decision to ask for something to address in it would that be something that that the staff would then consider and and make this an evergreen as something that could be added to it, or do we have to hire a contractor or something? Okay, I think I understand your question. This is something that if there was a revision that was needed, new information was presented, then it would be something that I think we as staff could revise internally. Thank you very much. Council Member Blue? Yeah, I'm done. Thank you very much. I move to adopt resolution 2548, a resolution of the city council of the city of Castle Pines, Colorado, adopting the 2025 transportation master. Okay. I have a motion and a second. Council Member Blue, since you made the motion, we'll go ahead and start the discussion with you. I'm very happy to see this done. The only criticism I would have is it took way too long to get the monarch safety things installed. They should have been done right away when the problems were identified. Other than that, this is a great plan. I like how it's presented, and I'm looking forward to seeing it implemented going forward. Mayor Pro Tem Eubanks, I believe you are the second. Go ahead. Yeah, thank you, Mary. I'm comfortable with the way it's written today. No additional comment. All right. Additional comments? Yes. Please. If you have council members, I'll go ahead and move to Council Member Mulvey. But if anyone else has additional comments, can you just raise your hand just for expediency so I can tell who needs to speak next? Council Member Mulvey? Yeah. Colleagues, I do think that we need to have that discussion with the school district. There are many of the changes or recommendations here are on school property. And I think that they're important and necessary. And those conversations, it disturbs me that we haven't had them yet. And I think they're important. It doesn't change what we've identified. It amplifies the need for it, given that between April and now that nothing's happened. My second comment has to do with... the traffic identified for the southbound seat, Castle Pines Parkway 925 southbound off ramp. I'm glad we have the traffic counts, but I think we should have a broader policy discussion. I know that it was brought to me in my one-on-one. I think it should be a bigger discussion, especially if we're gonna be calling on any appropriations for this. And then lastly, I want to please understand from staff at the appropriate time, if there are anything in here that we're being asked to appropriate in the budget. And again, at the appropriate time, but well enough in advance so that we can have those considerations for our budget discussions. And then those three comments aside, Dole, thank you very much. I really appreciate your explanation and discussion. And I would agree with the plan as written. Thank you. Is there any further discussion from council? All right. Clerk Goins, can you please call the question? Council Member Hudson? Yes. Council Member Salazar? Yes. Council Member Blue? Council Member Mulvey? Yes. Mayor Pro Tem Eubanks? Yes. Mayor Ingerman? Aye. And Council Member Cole? Yes. The motion passes. Thank you. All right. We're moving on to our comments and reports. City Manager Penny, do you have anything to report this evening? Nothing for you this evening, Mayor. Thank you. Thank you. All right. Mayor Pro Tem Eubanks, do you have anything this evening? No, I do not. Council Member Cole? No, no comment. Council Member Blue? Sorry about that. No comment. Council Member Hudson? No. Council Member Mulvey? yeah just a couple quick things and i want council to know that as i'm doing my preparation for the budget i got some questions and i thought it would be good for me to do my work in the library so i have opened that up for anybody who wishes to come in and confer about those things but i got to tell you i want to share that Boy, is it a lot easier to work on the big screen in the conference room and use the whiteboard to help me work through things that are of mine to me. So I'm going to be doing those in my former golf time on Thursdays going forward. So if any council member wishes to have some conversation about some of the issues with me in that time, I'd really welcome it. The second thing I want to mention is that ordinance I was discussing, Councilmember Eubanks asked me a question about it. So this was something I discussed at length with Councilmember Francoise Bergen in Aurora. She had made a proposal for an ordinance there where their concerns might be a little bit more prolific about teen use of e-bikes, but it surrounded the very same issues we're discussing here today with the chief. And that ordinance passed recently. So I would be, I'm gonna pull it out from what Francoise sent me and make the proposal after conferring with the chief and perhaps the sheriff on it. It essentially would have a ramification to a parent. And I wanna do it because When we had the golf cart problems multiple times, the parents had the same reaction as we heard raised in this meeting today, multiple times and not dealing with it. So I'll do that in the future. The next thing I wanted to mention, please, was that I went to three... events having to do with economic development and transportation. And I wrote a written report for the one that involved the Castle Rock Chamber and the UCA and the discussion I had with legislators. I have not yet written a report for the IBTTA one on the site selector conference. I will do so since I had hoped somebody else that attended would give us a report, but that didn't happen. That was with the Douglas County EDC. What I would like to suggest for the Douglas County Economic Development Corporation, I think it is, is that we have an elected official attend on the board. That request was made to me multiple times by multiple members. of the EDC and I wanted to communicate that to you. So that's all I have today. Please give that some thought. Council Member Salazar. Just one quick comment. I went to an event on Friday where Sheriff Weakley was presenting and he did bring up Castle Pines and did share that he will be sure When they catch these burglars, they will be sending a strong message that you do not mess with Douglas County or Castle Pines. The other thing as talking to residents over the weekend is just how to get that communication. I know it needs to come from the sheriff's office, but is there a way, I don't know, for them, if they're not checking the sheriff's office communication, how do they find out what's happening in the city when it comes to that? I know there's... That's the priority is for the communication to come from the sheriff's office. But just want to make sure that, you know, people are getting information that is relevant to them. And they did get feedback that they're appreciating the communication they are receiving. But that was one sort of gap that a couple of residents mentioned. So just something that we maybe want to discuss in the future. Thank you. All right. I just want to remind everyone we have the Fall Fest on Friday and Saturday. And then invite everyone, all the council members, to join me for Trunk or Treat. Wear your green shirts, Council Member Salazar and Council Member Cole. I have new ones for you because you weren't on council the last time we did this. But we have candy that we can pass out to all of our trick-or-treaters for Fall Fest. And it's from 10 to 2 on Saturday. All right. May I be recognized, please? Yes, Council Member Mulvey. I have a question. I'm a member of the chamber and I usually do trunk or treat as my business. So I don't know if it would be appropriate to represent myself as a council member as well in that context. So is there direction that can be provided from the manager council or somebody else on that? I'm sure that City Manager Penny can follow up with you after the meeting. Thank you. All right, so we're going to go ahead and adjourn the meeting at 6.36 p.m. Thank you, Council. Thank you, everyone. Thank you. Thank you.