[PAGE 1] ADVISORY FORM-BASED CODE STUDY COMMITTEE Minutes of 1/31/24 Time and Place: 6pm, Port Chester Senior Center, 222 Grace Church St, Port Chester, NY Attendees: Curt Lavalla, David Tepper, Dan Brakewood, Tony Cerreta, Adrienne Contra, Michael De Vittorio, Richard Falanka, Frank Ferrara, Monica Fonseca, Kevin McFadden, Dan Paniccia, Tav Passarelli, Paul Zaccagnino. Absent Ruth Hiensch and Ralph Rossi Ac†ion: Motion to open meeting made by Richard, seconded by Tav passed and meeting opened at 6:08. Motion to approve minutes for 1/24/24 meeting with addendum added of Curt’s clarifying emailed comments regarding Parkland funds, made by Kevin and seconded by Paul was also passed. Continued Review of Enlarged Downtown Map The committee reviewed enlarged downtown Map courtesy of Tony Cerreta to determine feathering and zones abutting other zones. CD 6T area was reviewed. Should we reduce heights there? Palace and Poningo currently CD6 and should that change? The committee had floated reducing heights in CD5 and CD6. Some of existing zone designation was done for feathering purposes. If they didn’t do feathering than the projects on east side of poningo would be 12 and the west side would be 6 stories. Between palace and poningo could you cut that long ways and transition that way? It might be difficult as they are narrow lots. The transition has to happen at some point. Suggestion was made that if you go there in person it gives you a better idea versus just looking at a map. A lot of those parcels are 25ft wide and not great for larger heights. [PAGE 2] Palace to Poningo should be CD5. We would also potentially recommend a sunset clause to make any future projects and those that don’t get built, liable to new zoning. The village needs the heights and we can provide heights in certain locations. A suggestion was made to put the higher buildings in CD5W because the topography will allow for heights without overshadowing the surrounding neighborhoods. Should the block that houses Simons building be 12 stories? (Irving to Westchester b/w N.Pearl and Poningo) There are certain considerations that should be looked at like where there are small lots, it could make sense to change. Other areas with things in pipeline and possibly more favorable development setups we don’t have as much justification to make as many changes. One member brought up that FBC dictates conditions as to what an urban core looks like and certain CD6 areas don’t meet those requirements. Even though there are approved projects there are sunset clauses so that projects don’t linger for years and years without being held to zoning changes for newer development. North Peal Street is a very wide road and it would look fine for larger buildings but other streets like palace and poningo are very narrow and less apt to house them. One member reminded the group that the BOT requested that we review heights. We also have to provide a rationale to justify changes. We are doing this for the village and their goal was to increase tax revenue. If we don’t certain areas and their heights, and if we recommend to change, we have to justify why. One member stated that since FBC has passed assessable in this village has increase by 30%. So, the development has increased revenue. One member brought up that at end of last meeting we sat around looking at the enlarged downtown map, and three former board members on this committee said that when they signed off on this they didn’t think they (larger developments with [PAGE 3] 12 story heights) were gonna bleed out into all these additional areas. It was said it was a “mistake.” So, if they can all attest that it was in fact a mistake, then we need to correct that mistake. One member stated that per the Resolution adopted by BOT the focus of our committee was to comment and recommend proposed changes to the code… the number one item on the list of things to focus on from the BOT in the resolution was building heights. They (BOT) can choose to take our recommendations or not. One member brought up the opportunity to garner heights in CD5W along the Byram River; the lower part of CD5W. Where would you put DPW? One member stated that CD5W development was way into the future because of all the industrial development that’s there now. If we could just take some of this balloon (rapid and high density development downtown) and take some air out. We want to keep it feasible to build but bring it down a little. And if focus is transit oriented development Fox island is too far. We have to focus on walkability and how traffic flows. We can suggest another committee for CD5W and waterfront development. We should focus on downtown for now. Village in past 8 years spent lots of money with lots of plans, and there are numbers as goals. What are those goals? We have greatly outpaced the SEQRA projections which is a big deal. In terms of environmental impact, we are way beyond projected rate of growth and overall units. That calculation is included in EIS that accompanied the adoption of the zoning code. One developer, in his written comments, made mention that not everything that’s approved will get built and full completion of what’s approved, of what will get built, will take 7-10 years. One member stated that it will always be more profitable to do taller buildings but you have to look at quality of life. Another member asked what will be projection of potential recommendations on income for village? [PAGE 4] One member stated that is not what the BOT is asking us do. They are asking us to take a look at the neighborhoods to have a professional urban planner with us to tell us what is standard in codes, what’s lacking in ours, and guide us towards making recommendations. After that, it’s up to the village to study all of that. They could tell us we are not taking your recommendations. They should be responsible and study it but we can’t just keep going back and forth over this. David Tepper is trying to provide us with sensible changes and provide us with justification for our recommendations. It’s great to have all this development but anyone can come in and put up a 12story building with no minimum lot size, no setbacks, no minimum frontage, basically nothing but a blank canvass. It (FBC) achieved most of the village’s goals but in some of those cases there’s some pretty basic stuff that most zoning codes have that we could use and that wouldn’t kill development. One former trustee said he didn’t make any mistakes and where he allowed greater heights it was to try to eliminate illegal housing, which has overwhelmed schools and put entire village behind. He did not think village would get up to speed on proper code enforcement and thought landlords could be incentivized to sell out. Density is already there, so you might as well legalize it and make it pay for itself. It wasn’t a mistake when he voted on any of this originally, but is willing to compromise. But, at some point something has to be done about illegal and dangerous housing. Has most of current/proposed development been focused on larger vacant lots or has it eliminated illegal housing? The answer is it didn’t eliminate illegal housing. One member stated FBC doesn’t have anything to do with anything where illegal housing is, it’s vacant lots in downtown area and we’re not solving overcrowding. There has to be compromise to the bleeding into other residential neighborhoods. One member said when BOT adopted this all departments met and decided 4 (stories max) on waterfront 5 or 6 (stories) in downtown and 12 (stories) by railroad. Other than 1 building that requested a 17 and BOT granted it at 15 in CD 6T. We didn’t visualize by poningo as part of this. This got stretched. We didn’t see a map. [PAGE 5] One member asked how could it get voted on without a map to view what was being voted on? It was during covid and there were a lot of plan the port meetings and they (BOT) never visualized places like poningo as being railroad areas with greater heights. Do we agree on palace to poningo being reduced down to CD5 from CD6? What about N. Pearl to palace? With that block it’s important to look at the lots. There’s going to be development interest there. It would be harder to justify. One member stated that the biggest outcry from public came from the 12 story near Summerfield church. Those are 2 and 3 family homes that are gonna be demolished to put up a 12 story building at one of the worst traffic circles in the village. That was one of the catalysts that brought the public out and likely led to us being here and this committee being formed. How does that get approved with that street width? Are we able to say that if a CD 6 area abuts up to CD5 that it needs to be feathered. If CD 6T wasn’t 15 stories you wouldn’t have a problem with lowering that block across the street to 6 stories. The Modern (also on that block) is 4 stories. We are not looking at approved buildings. However, until they pull a building permit and there are shoves in the ground, our town attorney advises that the town has the right to make zoning changes up until the point that shovels hit the ground. What if instead of changing that block to a CD5, we table it and determine dimensional changes? If we determine that all of CD6 should be reduced on heights and allow for density bonuses then perhaps that will solve the problem of that block. General idea from earlier discussions that in CD6 rather than 12 story max, it could be 8max with the ability for an additional story or two with a density bonus. We also talked about Irving to Westchester from Oak to Smith potentially changing to CD5 from CD6. Simons building is also on a block that’s in CD6. [PAGE 6] Dave offered to give us land area analyzes numbers so we can talk about it and that can give us projected impact of potential recommended changes. Whatever substantive data we can provide will help BOT and also attempt to get unanimous consent and that will go a long way with BOT. Can we agree on recommending changing poningo to palace from CD6 to CD5 and the feathered area across street from Poningo also downzoning to CD5? One reason to down zone that area is the topography, it has a high elevation. Elevation should be considered in some of these recommendations. Rationale is the topography, high elevation means that a CD6 building would be too high, and existing parcels are quite small in relation to other CD6 areas, narrow street as well. We have consensus on that change. We are reserving voting until everything is done but listing this on our to do list. We attempted to discuss Beech Street regarding Clay Art. We will table until we get more info on what the request is. Parts of Beech were changed to R2F and Clay Art Center is requesting to change to CD4MU or CD5. One of the written comments from a CD4 member explained the rationale for the change and suggested to leave it as is and Clay Art Center can go to ZBA if they want to rezone it. There was a huge amount of public input regarding making Beech CD5 or CD4MU to accommodate Clay Art Center’s expansion, so we need to look at that and not leave it up to ZBA. Other areas requested for study by BOT were William St. from Spring to Pearl and Olivia and Beech street to revert back to old zone. Merritt and Franklin were also changed via recommendations from CD4 Committee. Should they be reverted back? Could we get a map of these areas before we make recommendations? Could we get a map of the whole village enlarged to show what may need to be changed? What is our purpose to look at Merritt, and Franklin? We should stick to downtown area for now and put these outskirt issues at the back. We don’t have enough information to make recommendations right now. [PAGE 7] What is next major transitional area to feather; Pearl to Smith? Curt cannot discuss because the zoning issues there have been closed sessions due to lawsuit. Does it make sense to recommend to BOT to turn it back to what it was (CD5)? Curt reminded the committee that we are not making any changes to approved projects but that doesn’t mean that we cannot make recommendations in those areas, as some of those projects may not get built and our recommendations would apply to those that don’t get built and those that come in the future. The block near Summerfield church in particular is larger more attractive for development properties. We talked about regulating via heights with potential density bonuses. That particular site there’s some misgivings about heights. They still have their approval but should that expire, then they will be liable to new zoning changes. It was suggested to make minimum on sidewalks of 10ft. Everything on King Street is either set back or someone’s yard because they are houses and not buildings. Shouldn’t buildings that get approved there keep setbacks already in existence? We should have minimum sized sidewalks. That’s what code says. We can have further discussion on block where post office is (Westchester to Irving from Poningo to Haseco) lowering that from CD6 to CD5. If we go back to issue of topography that fits as well. Dimensional changes need to be discussed. Are we reducing heights with density bonuses? Not to downplay the CD5W there are more pressing issues in the Once they take this and digest it, then they can take a look at CD5W. Next week we will discuss dimensional changes and discuss the outskirt areas. Curt will provide us with more info on outskirts and Dave will distribute his draft chart on dimensional changes with density bonuses. There is a retirement party for village attorney on Feb 22 which many committee members will attend. We can discuss next week changing the date of our meeting that week to accommodate that. Motion to close passed and meeting closed at 7:50pm. Next meeting Thursday, February 8, 2024 6pm Senior Center 222 Grace Church St.