All righty, good evening, everybody. I call to order the April 14th Zoning Subcommittee Special Meeting. The time is now 6.34 p.m. Mr. Clerk, will you please call the roll? Thank you, Chairman. Chairman Simpson? Present. Alderwoman Scott? Alderman Smedley? Alderwoman Maldonado? Alderwoman DeLurnia? Alderman Centeno? Alderwoman Barboza? Alderman Santiago. President. Alderman McNamara. Here. Alderwoman Luz Ortiz Luna. Alderman Barrero. Present. Alderman Malinowski. Here. Alderman, Alderwoman Vargas, excuse me. Here. And Alderman Simpson, Gibson. Here. You have a quorum. Thank you, Mr. Clerk. And let's see here. Will you please read into the record the notice of the public hearing. Legal Notice, City of New Britain. Alderman Santiago. Make a motion to waive the reading of the legal notice. Thank you. Is there a second? Second. All righty. We have a motion to waive the reading made by Alderman Santiago, seconded by Alderwoman Barbosa-Holly. All in favor of waiving the reading, please say aye. Aye. All opposed, nay. The ayes have it. Motion carries. Thank you. Thank you. Okay. So for tonight's meeting, we have a public hearing. Let's see here. Please remember to state your name and address for the record and limit your time to three minutes. The items for this public hearing are item number, thank you Mr. Cook, are item number 37042, Mark Ullen, apologies if the pronunciation is off. of Z2 Motorsports LLC seeking granting of a certificate of location approval to allow state DMV issuance of a motor vehicle dealer and repairer license for the property known as 724 Allen Street. And item number 37118, Pameran Rimbier of New Britain Muffler LLC seeking granting of certificate of location approval to allow state DMV issuance issuance of a motor vehicle repair license for the property known as 46 Washington Street. On this sign-up sheet here, I've got Pomeranian Rimbier of 46 Washington Street. Mr. Chair, we're in public hearing right now. Are there clarifying questions here? Oh, okay. Yeah, it doesn't have to, it's optional. Next on the list is Mark Ulan. Yeah, so the format for these meetings are the public hearing is we have the sign up here and the idea is as the legislative body this is the time for us to hear sort of the case as to why or why not, see how people feel. And everybody gets three minutes to make whatever pitch they want. It just has to be on these specific items for tonight. So by all means, three minutes. Plead my case on why we should be there? Sure. You don't have to use the full three minutes, but the floor is yours. No, that's fine. So we're Z2 Motorsports. We're a specialty shop. We do restoration and customization on muscle cars and classic cars. We were... Behind the car wash on E Street for a while we outgrew that space and luckily the old Papa's Dodge was available. That space had problems though, you're probably all aware with the environmental issues and they couldn't sell it. I worked with Dominic Papa and worked out an arrangement where I would buy the property by assuming some of the risk for the Transfer Act. We're in the building now. It's an absolutely perfect space for us. It's exactly what we need. We've got shop space. We've got office space. We've got showroom. We're really happy to be there. We're happy that we could stay in New Britain. That was really good. In a way, there's a little bit of a growing auto thing going on in New Britain because we've got swag and the paddock and us. We just feel it's a good space for us. It's absolutely perfect. All we're asking is that we're allowed to use it for what it had been used for for years and years and years. All righty. All righty. And if that's everything, there's Attorney Donald Shevchak. Shevchak. Beautiful. Good evening. Roy Rambier sitting here in the red shirt. He's the owner of right around the corner from this building. He's been the owner for about 16 or 17 years. He's been taking care of people in this area for a long time. Some of you may recognize him, he's there every day. For the 16 years or the 15 years or so, he owned it with a partner. They owned it together and a couple years ago they decided to change that arrangement. They did all the business at the time. At the time, they, I'll use the word neglected, they didn't realize that the repairs license was just in the name of his partner. who he is now split up with. So now to get his repair license renewed with DMV, he has to go through a new repair license. All the papers are prepared. I understand Jim Strickland has indicated this is his own. Nothing is changing. I mean, it's business as usual. It's the same shop. It's the same bays. It's the same employees. It's simply now getting a repairs license in his name, hopefully, should you grant it, instead of his partner who is now split up. And he's here if you have any questions for him. Thank you. Thank you. That reaches the end of the list of sign-ups. Do we have callers? Do we have the ability for that tonight? Mr. Chair, there are no callers. Thank you. All right. And if there's anybody wishing to approach the podium, I believe now's the time. Going once, going twice, three times. Seeing no other speakers, we're going to close this public hearing and move on to the special meeting. The time is 6.40. And so the first item on our agenda is item number 37042. May I have a motion? Alderman Santiago? I make a motion to accept and refer to the full council with a neutral recommendation. We have a motion to refer this item back to the council with a neutral recommendation seconded by Alderwoman Barbosa-Hawley. Is there any discussion on the site or I'm sorry at this time I would actually like to call Justin Dorsey to read into the record the City Planning Commission recommendation. Oh the woman Scott's joining us at 641. Thank you. Good evening. Recommendation from the City Plan Commission. This site has been historically used as location for automotive sales and repair and continues to be used as such today. This application supports the expansion of an existing business in the city which is a smaller scale than what had previously operated on this site. The City Plan Commission recommends approval of the certificate of location application. Thank you. Is there any discussion on this item? I just have a question for the gentleman. Can you come back up to the, yes. No, not, yeah. Yeah, you. This item is regarding Mark Woolen. Yes. I just want to thank you for choosing and staying in Britain. How long have you been in business? In the business? I've been in for three years now. Three years? Okay. A TOTAL OF THREE YEARS, DID YOU HAVE A BUSINESS BEFORE, SAME TYPE OF BUSINESS BEFORE THIS? I HAVE A LITTLE BIT OF A DIFFERENT BACKGROUND. I WAS AUTOMOTIVE OUT OF HIGH SCHOOL, AND I ALWAYS WANTED TO HAVE MY OWN SHOP. I DID THAT FOR SEVERAL, I DIDN'T HAVE MY OWN SHOP. I WAS GETTING READY TO DO THAT, AND I REALIZED I WASN'T READY TO DO IT. I WENT TO CCSU, GOT A COMPUTER SCIENCE AND MATH DEGREE, AND WORKED FOR 30 YEARS IN THE BUSINESS WORLD. AND THEN A FEW YEARS AGO, I REALIZED I ALWAYS HAD THIS THING THAT I WANTED TO DO. OKAY. AND SO NOW I'M THERE. Well, thank you so much and good luck. That's all I have, Mr. Chair. Thank you. Anything else? No, I think that's it. Actually, before we take action on this item, I believe our planning and development crew may have a presentation for us or not with tonight's. Got you. All right. Any other discussion on this item? All righty, seeing none, all in favor of referring this back to the council with a neutral recommendation, please say aye. Aye. All opposed, say nay. The ayes have it. The next item on our agenda is item number 37118. May I have a motion? Mr. Chair. Alderman Santiago. I make a motion to accept and refer item number 3718 to the full council with a neutral recommendation. We have a motion to refer this back to the council with a neutral recommendation made by Alderman Santiago, seconded by Alderwoman Barbosa-Hawley. And at this time. I'd like to welcome back Justin Dorsey for the city plans recommendation city plan commission's recommendation. Hello again. The proposal is a change of ownership to an existing nonconforming automotive repair garage. The site has been occupied by an auto repair use since at least 1967. The city plan commission recommends approval of the certificate of location application. Thank you. And any discussion on this item. Alderman DeLernia. Yes I have a question. I guess I can ask this, what would prevent him from getting the license other than our approval of the location, but that would be it? I mean, seeing that he's dissolving a partnership, I don't know if there would be anything involved in that. Ultimately, at this point, Alderwoman, it's up to the council. That's the last step in this. YOU KNOW, IT'S THE WAY THE STATE STATUTE REQUIRES, SO ANY TIME THAT SOMEBODY IS NOT LISTED ON THE LICENSE, EVEN IF IT'S THE SAME EXACT BUSINESS LIKE THIS HAS BEEN, IT'S BEEN A MINOR KEY SINCE 1983 WHEN THEY GOT FIRST CITY APPROVAL, YOU KNOW, SO IT'S JUST A FORMALITY AT THIS POINT. SO ONCE THE COUNCIL APPROVES IT, HE'S GOLDEN? YEAH, PRETTY MUCH. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. ANY OTHER DISCUSSION ON THIS ITEM? All righty, all in favor of referring this back to the council with a neutral recommendation, please say aye. Aye. All opposed, nay. You guys have it. Thank you. Yes. Now planning and development. I believe the time to shine is now. All righty, to our friends in the audience here, this has concluded our part of the business, the official will come at the next regular council meeting, provided this gets processed orderly. We've had some craziness in City Hall, but we appreciate you guys being here. So if you want to hang out for the meeting, by all means, you're welcome, but feel no obligation. Thank you for your time and attention. Of course. Take care now. ALL RIGHT THANK YOU MR. CHAIR AND COUNCIL MEMBERS FOR HAVING US HERE TONIGHT SEEING I BELIEVE THIS IS THE FIRST TIME THIS BODY HAS MET SINCE THE ELECTIONS IN NOVEMBER WE FIGURED NOW IS A GOOD TIME FOR JUST A REFRESHER FOR THOSE OLDER PERSONS RETURNING AND A INTRODUCTION TO ZONING CHANGES FOR ANY NEW OLDER PERSONS AS YOU'LL SEE IN JEFF'S PRESENTATION, WHICH HAS BEEN PASSED OUT IN FRONT OF YOU INSTEAD OF AN ACTUAL PRESENTATION. THERE ARE SOME ZONING CHANGES THAT WILL BE COMING THAT ARE REQUIRED BY STATE STATUTES WITH THE PASSAGE OF THE HOUSING BILL, SO WE FIGURE WE GET THE BALL ROLLING WITH THIS. THIS IS SIMILAR TO, AGAIN, IF YOU WERE ON THE LAST COUNCIL BODY, THE PRESENTATION THAT THEY DID IN THE BEGINNING OF THAT TERM, BUT JUST WITH SOME MINOR UPDATES, AND THEN, AGAIN, JUST TO INTRODUCE EVERYBODY TO HOW THE ZONING PROCESS FOR THE CITY WORKS. SO WITH THAT, We'll turn it over to Jeff Cormier our city planner. Jeff Cormier I'm sorry I just have a quick question. What happened to item number three? We're talking about item number three on our agenda here. Basically I was made aware they didn't actually have the application portion of it completed. So for tonight I think it's going to remain as unfinished business because we can't actually help complete that part of the process. All right. Thank you. Thank you. That's the cliff notes version I got. All right. Good evening councillors. My name's Jeff Cormier. I'm the city planner. For those of you that don't know me I started with the city in 2022. I have about 20 years land use planning experience in the state also working for a couple different municipalities in the past. And I have a presentation for you that'll sort of introduce you to your role as the zoning authority for the city. So New Britain is one of a handful of towns or cities in Connecticut where the council is the zoning authority. And so. This will give you a good background for planning and zoning and the different types of petitions that you're going to see come before you. So the overview slide is just really going to show you what I'm going to get to is the interaction of all the different boards and commissions and the applications. So if you go to the Department of Planning and Development slide. This just shows you the overview of our department. Justin Dorsey is here. He's the director of the Department of Planning and Development. I'm under the city plan area. And as City Plan, we support and staff all the commissions that you see on the left. So City Plan Commission, Zoning Board of Appeals, Historic Preservation Commission, and Conservation Commission. What you're seeing listed underneath are the different responsibilities or applications that those boards and commissions deal with. On the bottom right is sort of grayed out. That's the Commission on Community and Neighborhood Development, CCND. That's under Community Development and not something that I'm going to talk about tonight, but that's another commission that is staffed by our department. So the next slide, plan of conservation and development. So every town in Connecticut is required to have what's known as a plan of conservation and development. That is a 10-year plan that provides land use policies, goals for development, and is supposed to really guide development over a 10-year period. It's required by statute. We have to update it every 10 years. If a town fails to update theirs or if they don't have one, you're ineligible for state grants and discretionary funding. So there's actually teeth to that. And just think of the plan of conservation development as really the blueprint and sort of focus, sort of broad focus of development in the city. So if you look at the bottom right, that's what's known really as the future land use plan. It's just sort of taking those overall broad land use policies and putting them on the map of the city. As you see in the bottom left, you have a live, sustain policy focus area going up to grow, innovate. That's really areas that are more preservation focused with land use policies and goals moving to what you would know as the downtown, the central business district as sort of a grow, innovate. That's a very vibrant area. So it's just showing the preservation of lower density single family into the land use policies that are guided towards transition, vibrancy toward your downtown. And just noting that our most recent POCD was adopted in 2021, so we don't have to do another until 2031. On the next slide, zoning. So if you think of the plan of conservation development as your general guide and blueprint for the city, zoning is really the implementation tool. So what you see there is the zoning map for the city. Every town has a zoning map. It's divided into different districts. So if you look at the sort of lighter colored orange or orange, you have... S districts, the A districts, those are generally residential districts. You have the B districts, which are business. I is industrial. And then we have some mixed use districts in there that actually allow for both types of uses. TOD, transit oriented development districts. B3 sort of allows for mixed uses. But generally, zoning regulations are the framework and the guidelines for how you're implementing your plan of conservation and development. And they're supposed to be, you know, and really to create equity with the standards. WITHIN EVERY ZONING DISTRICT. SO EVERYONE'S OPERATING UNDER THE SAME GUIDELINES AND STANDARDS WITH WHATEVER DISTRICT YOU'RE IN. SO AGAIN, YOU THINK OF THE POCD OVERARCHING DEVELOPMENT GUIDE, ZONING IS REALLY THE IMPLEMENTATION TOOL OF HOW YOU GET THERE. THE NEXT SLIDE, LAND USE BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS, DUTIES AND RESPONSIBILITIES. SO BY THE CONNECTICUT GENERAL STATUTES, TOWNS TYPICALLY HAVE A PLANNING COMMISSION, A ZONING BOARD OF APPEALS, AND A ZONING COMMISSION. SO YOU AS THE COUNCIL ARE THE ZONING COMMISSION FOR THE CITY. And under there, on the next slide, I'll get into some of the petitions that you're going to see and where those go, how you refer those, and what comes back to you. Generally, it's zoning text amendments, map amendments, the automotive site location approval that you saw a couple tonight. But generally, when you act as that, I think the question of, you know, what is that? You're acting as an arm of the Department of Motor Vehicles for approving a site to make sure it's suitable. for auto repair or auto sales establishment. The ones you saw tonight were basically ones that have existed for years, so it's not really changing the use, the use has been there. But that's what that is. Under PZH, generally there you might deal with resolutions for selling property, buying property, leasing property, or abandoning roads, having new roads. That's also something I'll get on the next slide, how that gets referred to City Plan Commission for a report. Then you just see the other commissions. These are land use commissions that we deal with under City Plan. The Zoning Board of Appeals, their applications are variants. That's if someone wants to do something in a district that isn't permitted or they need an exception or a waiver of a standard, they have to go to ZBA. Special exceptions are basically conditional use applications. Someone goes there, if there's a use they want to do that requires that type of application, it has to meet certain set standards in the zoning ordinances already. And then under city plan, city plan by statute is the one who prepares the plan of conservation and development. So they're responsible for preparing that plan. They also have applications for subdivisions. Subdivision is when you're creating new buildable lots or you're dividing property into more than three parcels for a buildable purpose. Those applications have to go to city plan commission. City plan commission is also the inland wetlands commission for the city. And then those underneath that are the reviews that they do, which on the next slide you'll see types of zoning applications and petitions. So for you, common council, the zoning authority, the bottom right you have zoning text amendments and map amendments. And the arrows you're seeing are referrals from council from city plan. So those are, you receive a zoning amendment to change the text or a map. You receive it, you refer it to city plan. They send you back a recommendation. That's required by statutes. Also the site location approval. As you did, you refer it to city plan. And then they send you back a recommendation. Also on any property sale, lease purchase, things of that nature. That's all under 824 of the statutes and 1922 of the ordinances. And generally when city plan commission sends you something back, they're looking at it from a land use perspective. So they're looking at the use or its compatibility with zoning and to make sure that whatever is being proposed is not in conflict with the plan of conservation and development. Other things like zoning board of appeals, every application that goes before ZBA is also referred to city plan and they send a recommendation to zoning board. And subdivisions and wetlands are just handled under city plan commission. So what you're really getting from this slide is that city plan commission is anything really land use related, they send you a recommendation that's to show how it's in context with the plan of conservation development. The next slide, types of zoning petitions. So this is really just giving you an example of the types of things that you would see. The first one is a zoning text amendment and that's exactly what it sounds like. It's a petition to change the wording of the zoning ordinances themselves. The reason that you would see petitions, sometimes we would submit them to you because we're trying to modernize standards and we're trying to address new state law changes that you're going to see. And also implement the POCD. You might see outside applicants also submitting those if there's something they want. But generally, text amendments are just a change of the wording. Boundary change, you're seeing a zoning map boundary right there. So if someone wanted to change the zoning boundaries or change a zone altogether, that would be under a map change, also the same process. You get it, refer it to city plan, they send you back a recommendation. And generally, zoning boundary map changes are done for a couple reasons. What you're seeing there on Allen Street, there's a split zone parcel identified. So zoning map lines don't always, zoning boundary lines don't always coincide with a property line. In that example, you had a property that was called split zone, meaning the person has certain rights or uses they can do on one half and not the other half. Generally you don't want to have that because then you're creating impediments for a business or a property owner who lives there. It doesn't really make a whole lot of sense to have a property that's split zoned in most cases. So that was an example of that. And then you see with spot zone, that's one on Allen Street. That's literally one parcel has its own zone. And those are discouraged, especially by case law, because essentially through case law, they've ruled that if you have a lot of spot zones, you're essentially granting variances or exceptions to that one property that nobody else in the surrounding vicinity has. If we go through and we find that spot zones on the zoning map, we would file a petition to change those to something that makes more sense. Same with split zones. So that's really the reason you might see some of these petitions. Or you might see someone just submitting something on their own behalf. On the right, you see Mount Pleasant. That's a little bit of a different zone. That's a special residential design district. So that's a master plan zone, meaning that when The housing authority and the developer, when they submitted that application or when that application came before you, they had to not just show you a boundary they wanted to change, they had to submit a whole site plan showing you exactly how things are going to be. And when you approve it, you're approving that site plan. So if they deviate from that, they actually have to come back to you for another zone change application. The Special Residential Design District in the A Road, if you guys are familiar with that, 321 Ellis Street, it's an adaptive reuse of underutilized industrial buildings. That's a similar type district where they're actually coming to you with a full site plan, where you have a lot more discretion over what's going on in that site plan. So those are kind of the three petitions you would see. I'll also just tell you that over the past couple years that we've come up with a lot of zoning map changes and zoning text amendments, and that's really because the last sort of comprehensive revision to our zoning ordinances was done in 1966. And so the original zoning ordinances for the city were adopted in 1925. That went up until 1966 when there's a complete redo. That's when you get so far standards change, criteria change, state law changes, and it requires you to go through and say, you know what, we need to modernize these and bring these up to modern standards and address a lot of things. And so that was done in 1966 and so If we're bringing you something, normally that's to address new state laws or create modern standards that didn't exist. Some of you might know like the impervious coverage, drainage, we didn't have a lot of those standards. So we went to adopt some of those to make sure we're in line with what other towns are adopting as well. So the next slide. This was the House Bill 805. It was passed at the legislative session by the state last October, I believe. So it's now Public Act 25-1. And this is a big bill. It's about 100 pages. There's a lot of things in it. We've looked through it. We're also working with CROG, our regional planning agency, our capital region planning agency that we're a member of. And we're going through, they're working with all their member municipalities, but There are certain changes that are going to take effect July 1st that we need to address in our zoning ordinances. So well we're going to be back before you to try and do that. The ones outlined in red zoning ordinance amendments passed in that law was basically that this this new thing called transit community middle housing which is defined as two to nine units two to nine residential units is basically permitted by right or by what's called summary summary review on any lot that is owned commercial or mixed use. So for us, that means we need to go through our zoning ordinances, see what allows for commercial mixed use, and now we need to make sure we're allowing for these two to nine units. And then we also have to create a new process that's, they're referring to it as a summary review process. So we're gonna need to create a new sort of approval process called summary review that allows these, the appropriate procedure to go through that will require no public hearing or anything else, because that's what's required by state law. So that's one thing that we're trying to address and that we need to work pretty quickly on. The other thing you'll note in here, a couple bullets down, there are parking requirements for every use in the zoning ordinances. As an example, if you have a single family house, you're required to provide two parking spaces on site for that. It also depends on what district you're located in. Different districts have different parking requirements. Different uses have different parking requirements. Something passed in the law is that For residential developments having 16 or less units, we cannot deny it based on parking. So there is no parking requirement. So we need to figure out how that gets worked into our zoning ordinances and how that gets addressed under a summary review process. So you can still have certain criteria and standards it has to meet, but you can't reject or deny a project if it doesn't meet a parking requirement for that specific type of use. There are provisions that allow the city to create A MAXIMUM OF TWO WHAT'S CALLED CONSERVATION AND TRAFFIC MITIGATION DISTRICTS WHERE YOU CAN STILL REQUIRE PARKING. AND THERE'S CRITERIA OVER HOW BIG THEY CAN BE AT THE LAND MASS AND STUFF. BUT GENERALLY IF THERE'S A COUPLE AREAS, YOU KNOW, YOU REALLY THINK, YOU KNOW WHAT, WE NEED A PARKING REQUIREMENT HERE. YOU CAN DO IT IN TWO AREAS WHICH CAN'T BE GREATER THAN IN MY CALCULATION ABOUT HALF A SQUARE MILE BECAUSE THAT'S 4% OF THE LAND AREA OF THE CITY. SO THERE'S THINGS IN THERE WE NEED TO ADDRESS PRETTY QUICKLY. THOSE ARE THE THINGS WE'RE LIKELY GOING TO BE COMING BACK TO YOU FOR FAIRLY SOON. OTHER THINGS ON HERE JUST FOR YOUR KNOWLEDGE. that are more longer term. As part of the law that passed, we're going to be required to prepare a housing growth plan every five years. The first one has to be adopted by June 1st, 2028. And there's things under there that we're going to have to, the plan components I've identified. But there's things we're going to have to address. It's very similar to, if you guys remember the affordable housing plans that were passed a couple years ago, kind of similar to that, but it's called the housing growth plan. And we're going to have to go through a process to approve that as well. There's some other things in there about being a transit oriented community which we will be eligible for because we have TOD districts around the fast track stations that may lead to future funding opportunities for private developers or us. So those are things we need to look into and address. And then there's housing growth program incentives that also longer term we'll need to look into and address. This was really just to kind of bring this before you, introduce you to some of the things that are going on statewide. The last slide was land use commissioner training. This was passed in 2021. This requires anyone on a zoning commission, planning commission, or zoning board of appeals, you're required by state law or statute to complete four hours of training. That training is generally webinars or seminars if you wanted to go to. We actually have a checklist that needs to be updated because we first did it in 2022. But we have links to all different webinars people can watch. They're on affordable housing, land use, decision making, stuff like that. We can certainly share with you. But there is, for any land use commissioner, there's a certain training requirement. So that's really all the stuff I wanted to address with you, introduce you to it. And if there's any questions you have, I'm happy to answer them. And thank you. Thank you for your time. I appreciate it. Any questions on our Alderman Delernia? Thank you. But I got to tell you, I feel like I'm sitting in my college professor's auditorium. It just kind of went, now I got to go home and crack the books. That was a quick, quick presentation, but I do thank you for it and I'm going to try to study it. Thank you. Any others? All the Miss Santana. I'm sorry, Mr. Korn, thank you for, as all the women in the audience said, thank you for coming out. And I feel the same way. I got as far as writing your name down. But anyway, no. But the only thing that sticks out, the last one was under the housing growth planning. Is it broken, a certain percentage has to be single family? So the housing growth planning, that's going to be a whole separate plan that we as the city need to develop. It has to address, it's not really like specific to single family. It's going to be how are we addressing affordable housing? How are we providing housing options? Under the plan components, it has to actually do those things. Our plan is going to have to address infrastructure improvements to support existing units, opportunities for new affordable housing, rehab of existing affordable housing. So there's going to be components of that plan that we need to address, not specific to single family. Okay. Thank you. DIRECTOR HERSEY- Mr. Chair I'm going to piggyback question on that. Is there funding is going to be coming with those requirements because you're saying that we are going to be mandated to basically have affordable housing in certain areas. Will there be funding to support those requirements because again obviously that means that we have to infrastructure which means drainage and sewers and everything has to be matched up to those you know renovations or anything that we have to do. So I believe that when they pass the law there are some Justin could speak about it as well but there are some if you look under housing housing growth program incentives those are kind of the incentives that are listed in the act. So it was grants in aid to pay for improvement expansion of infrastructure. It was some potential school project reimbursement. But we have to in order to get to that we have to be we have to have a housing growth plan. We have to and then either be designated a transit oriented community or adopted a Connecticut municipal development authority district which we will certainly qualify for those. There's some things we have to do to get there. In terms of the housing growth plan itself that we need to prepare, there's not funding for that. We're just going to have to do that sort of like a plan of conservation development. Just to speak further on that so that will be not this one that you guys are about to get from the mayor tomorrow night but next year's budget we will have to factor that in to our next year's budget that we do in April of twenty twenty seven because we have to get it done by twenty twenty eight so we'll have to say pennies but you know figure like twenty five thirty thousand dollars for a consultant but that's in next year's budget. And I'd just like to add as we roll through this process This is not going to happen in one big push. This is definitely going to happen not exactly in piecemeal but piece by piece. So we'll see text amendments we'll see boundary amendments we'll see just these different things that the body can adopt in order to help make sense of this housing growth plan. In addition to that we have to submit this to OPM by 6 1 28. I. I. somebody fact-check me if I'm wrong here, but we have to have this plan somewhat adopted by January 1st. So we have to basically have this plan done, put a bow on it, and submit it to OPM by June 1st. But there are things in between that where this body, us specifically, will have to address them. I don't know what it'll look like, but having this presentation, having this orientation is sort of the first moment to go, oh, zoning is in fact hard. So I appreciate you guys' time here. And there's no other speakers. Is there a motion to adjourn? Mr. Chair, just real quick. Not related to zoning, but I just want to say here, I sent you all the email about the public hearing on April 21st. In the one for NAA, the one that starts at 7 o'clock, I had a typo that said it's Wednesday the 21st. It is Tuesday the 21st. So it's 7 o'clock on Tuesday for NAA, which is just a simple thing the state makes us do. Nobody comes and speaks on that. And then 710 is the CDBG one. So just wanted to clarify that. Thank you for the reminder. Motion to adjourn. I believe we have a motion to adjourn made by Alderman Santiago seconded by Alderman Barrero. All in favor of adjourning please say aye. Aye. All opposed nay. The ayes have it. We are adjourned. The time is 7 0 8. Have a good night everybody.